need ideas about a new boat
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Topic: need ideas about a new boat
Posted By: bigman chris
Subject: need ideas about a new boat
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:00pm
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hey me and my mate are sailing a topaz tres atm but we are just a little bit overweight for it( only 10st lol) we want some thing faster and bigger. me as a helm weighs 15st n my crew weighs about 11st. we dont mind trapzing. we only want a boat for club racing. any ideas cheers chris
------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
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Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:08pm
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Thought about a topper spice? double trapeze, fast in a blow, very cheap? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: bigman chris
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:13pm
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yeh thats does look good my mate has looked at the new 29erx its looks well good but its ment to be a girls boat tho
------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:28pm
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You would be too heavy for a 29erX. Why not sail a 49er? ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: bigman chris
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:33pm
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nowhere near enough room at our club for that would be fun tho ------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:47pm
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Yeah 49ers cover a lot of ground quickly! But as said before the Spice or Topper Boss may be good because both are fast and double trapeze although the boss may (yet again) be to quick across the lake for your sailing area. Maybe laser 4000/5000 ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: bigman chris
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:54pm
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i dont mind if its just a single trapze. i sail at blackwater sailing club if anyone knowz where that is ------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 6:56pm
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where do you sail, there are so many boats you could choose from, more info would make it easier ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 7:06pm
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Oh right if i doesnt have to be double trapeze why not a fireball/505/osprey, theyre all meant to carry weight well i no the fireball does cos im not heavy enough ! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: bigman chris
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 7:07pm
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i sail in the river blackwater in the south east of england
------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
Posted By: bigman chris
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 7:09pm
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yeh maybe a fireball sounds good as we have a quite good fleet at the club ------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 16 Jun 05 at 8:12pm
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there are loads of B14's that way, you'd be spot on weight wise, fastest non-trapeeze dinghy you can get! ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 17 Jun 05 at 11:57am
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If you only want it for club sailing, then you want to buy what the club sails.
Sounds like a Fireball is best - and you have plenty of potential to decide on your price-point: From under £500 to well over £5000. |
Posted By: Bobbins
Date Posted: 17 Jun 05 at 2:02pm
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I'm thinking you'd be at the top end of the weight range of a FB. But if there's already a fleet have a play in one, see how it feels. You'd fly in heavy winds, when me and my crew (18 stone all up :P) just get blown away. Flying Dutchman might be worth a look in. Have a look at http://www.fastsail.org - http://www.fastsail.org , covers all the single trapeze power classes ------------- www.fastsail.org Fireball GBR 9476 |
Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 7:32am
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If your looking for an assymetric rather than symetric, maybe a buzz cause you would be able to handle the heavy stuff. But it is a bit slower than the fireball. ------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 8:37am
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Yeah thats a good point and its not much slower than the fireball offwind. ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 20 Jun 05 at 1:31pm
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Fireball would be ok - Just. The problem is that you are really 5 st too heavy to helm one competatively - better to swap positions with your crew. Same applies to all trapeze boats (obvious really - put the weight where its most effective). If thats not on you'll be ok for club racing but maybe you should consider something like an RS400 where your weight can be used as well as the crews. Again, best if there is a fleet of them to race with. |
Posted By: Peter Rhodes
Date Posted: 20 Jun 05 at 3:05pm
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what's the difference between a flying 15 and a flying dutchman? ------------- |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 20 Jun 05 at 3:07pm
A keel and a trapeze (respectively) amongst other things ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Peter Rhodes
Date Posted: 20 Jun 05 at 7:46pm
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so the 15 has a keel but no trapeze, easy to get confused they sound so simalar! ------------- |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 20 Jun 05 at 9:52pm
Yeah and i've heard the FD sailors are hard to forget ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 21 Jun 05 at 9:09am
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Sexiest fleet on the water, or so the FD sailors tell me.....
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Posted By: Jamie
Date Posted: 21 Jun 05 at 3:38pm
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In the nicest possible way of course. I think it is safe to say that we are one of the more "special" fleets out there. ------------- www.sailfd.org/GBR - GBR Flying Dutchman |
Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 21 Jun 05 at 7:33pm
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why not try a buzz one trap and fairly fast but u might be too heave for it, i was going to suggest you buy a penultimate 14 their fast and amazingly cheep, but if your on restricted water it could be risky! ------------- Your spinni aint as big as your mouth! |
Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 21 Jun 05 at 9:21pm
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no he should be ok in the strong stuff but a bit difficult in the light stuff. i am crew and i weigh about14stone and we still move quite a bit and we can hold it very happily in a force 5/6. Also when the winds down (about force4) you can sail them singhlehanded on the wire with a larger extension. They are great fun. ------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |