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Topic: Carbon Tube suppliers
Posted By: Merlinboy
Subject: Carbon Tube suppliers
Date Posted: 17 Jan 11 at 10:35am
Hi All,
Not sure if i have posted this before but here goes.
 
I am looking at making a twin pole setup for the 5oh, whilst i am at it i may as well make the Carbon pole switch.  I have been hunting round the net trying to find a supplier of blank carbon tube, tryign the usual suppliers like Carbonolgy.  Has anyone else got any contacts at all?  In need (I Think, unless someone else thinks otherwise) 2.5m lengths of 32mm ID and 34.8 ext or something similar.  I would like to get te pole or poles sorted before i make the switch to carbon boom later this year.
 
Russ



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Posted By: SalsaPirates
Date Posted: 17 Jan 11 at 10:40am
Came across these guys a while ago, but have not tried them yet:
 
http://www.woolmer.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_59 - http://www.woolmer.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_59
 
Interested to hear how you get on as I may be looking for some soon.


Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 11 at 10:55am
Intersting Vinylester/carbon tube?  whats the difference i know RS are looking at building the 400 out of Vynlester now, but using this type of resin on an Epoxy spinnaker pole? is it going to be strong enough? or are all epoxy tubes made out of this stuff??


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 17 Jan 11 at 11:20am
Epoxy and Vinylester are two different resin systems. Very rougly, vinylester is cheaper than epoxy but more expensive than polyester. The price more or less sort of kind of reflects the performance and resistance to fatigue. Any resin can be used with any fibre (sort-of), but obviously it makes sense to use better resins with better fibres (though this leads to something of an exponential shape to the price curve) as there's no point putting carbon fibre in polyester resin.

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Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 17 Jan 11 at 11:29am
Is there any point using carbon with Vinylester Al?  Will it be weaker?  What will it do to the characteristic of the pole?

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 17 Jan 11 at 12:06pm
good vinyl ester and cheapish carbon is an OK combination. It won't be as stiff as epoxy, but whether the difference would be at all noticeable (unless comparing versus super expensive aerospace stuff) I'm not sure- I'd reckon probably not, but don't want to be held accountable without access to the technical data on what resin and fibre they use. even within "epoxy" as a resin class there's huge differences in propreties- our aerospace resin systems sell for several times (about 8-10x I think) our marine/industrial/wind energy systems.

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Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 24 Jan 11 at 9:31pm
I bought carbon tube from Woolmer a few years ago, for a Graduate flyaway pole. Top quality stuff. Sadly, postage was more than the cost of the tube! So I bought 4 and sold the spares.
 
If carriage costs are now more reasonable, I'd be interested to know.


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Stewart


Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 26 Jan 11 at 4:02pm
Think i have sorted it now guys thanks, Alspars sell superspars poles for £94 plus the Vodka and tonic, so for about £250 i should have most of my new twin carbon pole setup.

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