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Eurotrax theft (cat tracks)

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Topic: Eurotrax theft (cat tracks)
Posted By: VikiHC
Subject: Eurotrax theft (cat tracks)
Date Posted: 04 Dec 10 at 8:49pm
Angry
Somewhere,     out there,      there is a thief!!
We know because we have just had our launching trolley stolen - it was padlocked to the boat so they cut the bridle wire!!  Luckily the mast didn't come down.    Great Christmas present .. I think not!!
 
We now discover that our Eurotrax were top of the range £517 ...to replace.  ( Knobbley wheels !! )
 
I am livid & would like to do horrible things to the thief !!
 
Please could you keep your eyes open for the appearance of this trolley at your club it has small splits on each cup and our sail No 365 written on it!!
 
We should not tolerate thieves in our community as it affects all of us through increased insurance premiums!!
 
If the thief reads this & regrets his actions please could he return our trolley !!!



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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 04 Dec 10 at 9:25pm
have you got a picture, also what boat was it for?

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Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 04 Dec 10 at 9:41pm
It was for a Hurricane 5.9 .. but as it was the shallow cups it would "suit" several cats. I do have a photo that I could post ...Flickr might be best.
I'm hoping that the power of the web might deter future thefts!!


Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 04 Dec 10 at 9:43pm
Also in what part of the country are you in because in this weather I do not think they traveled very far to steal them.

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Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 04 Dec 10 at 10:17pm
We are based at Datchet (DWSC) ... close to M25 / M4.  Club has barrier system & cctv ... so it suggests one of our fraternity .. some one who would not look out of place in a dinghy park / chandlers / sailing club.


Posted By: tickler
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 11:44am
That is serious as it suggests theft by a fellow cat sailor or could the trolley or wheels be used for anything else? At Glossop Sailing Club road bases were stolen to make trailers for off road bikes for instance? My boat was burnt by vandals who obviously knew nothing of sailing irritating but understandable in the modern world, if you understand. The replacement for this boat is coming from Datchet and itself had its rig stolen recently. Is there a trend at Datchet?


Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 4:27pm
Nightmare vicky hope you catch the b**tards and cut there balls off.


Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 5:09pm
Actually I was thinking of taking their ****** off but doing it Egyptian style  ... via the nostrils!! I;ve got a long knitting needle that I could ducktape to a crochet hook!!
Just think everyone else ought to be very careful with their kit ... padlock your launching trolley to the road trailer especially if it's a Eurotrax !!
Wonder how many other people have had theirs stolen?  There's not a lot they can be used for as the tyres will only take 5 PSI. Also in the axle the "ballbearings" are only plastic so cannot cope with high speeds.
Meanwhile it's all a very real pain and an added expense at a time when life is expensive enough!


Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by VikiHC

We are based at Datchet (DWSC) ... close to M25 / M4.  Club has barrier system & cctv ... so it suggests one of our fraternity .. some one who would not look out of place in a dinghy park / chandlers / sailing club.


I doubt it - more some pikeys from slough, go knows what they'll use it for, but it's a pretty prime spot for theft - my crew had her car broken into and phone/handbag/waller/laptop stolen when going sailing one weekend - and whilst we were rigging up (on the lower level)



Posted By: mikeward
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 7:23pm
So who is soft enough to this cat sailors cannot possibly be thieves - if they have had it away for their boat i think it will find its way into ebay. If you find it is a Datchet sailor can I suggest a naked safety boat duty in January as the penalty.

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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 10:15pm
Had my car done there years ago it got a lot better after the barrier was put in but if its not nailed down someone will nick it,and it sounds like they will get it even if it is nailed down.


Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 05 Dec 10 at 10:47pm
WE think they were very determined as they'd hack sawed their way through the bridle wire.  Not an easy job I would have thought.
Don't think it was Pikeys as they are more "smash & grab" merchants.
It's just very very annoying and expensive!


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 06 Dec 10 at 8:15am
Time to spray paint the cat wheels...

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Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 06 Dec 10 at 11:01am
Tongue  Yeah - I could do it pink!!   (Helm might moan )


Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 06 Dec 10 at 3:15pm
Originally posted by VikiHC

Actually I was thinking of taking their ****** off but doing it Egyptian style  ... via the nostrils!! I;ve got a long knitting needle that I could ducktape to a crochet hook!!
Just think everyone else ought to be very careful with their kit ... padlock your launching trolley to the road trailer especially if it's a Eurotrax !!
Wonder how many other people have had theirs stolen?  There's not a lot they can be used for as the tyres will only take 5 PSI. Also in the axle the "ballbearings" are only plastic so cannot cope with high speeds.
Meanwhile it's all a very real pain and an added expense at a time when life is expensive enough!
 
Eurotrax wheels are also used on kite buggies, they fit sealed stainless bearings inside those black plastic tophat things so they can cope with 60mph speeds. I am sure a kite buggier wont have nicked them but worth searching for kite buggy wheels on ebay.


Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 05 Feb 11 at 11:03pm
Latest update - check your insurance. To replace our trolley is going to be £570 + .....we were under insured on our trolley (value £400 we thought )  excess (£100)..   Now Insurance will not pay out to replace the "hack sawed" through rigging.
We think we will be shopping around when it comes to renewal & checking the small print !
Any suggestions for insurance companies?


Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 05 Feb 11 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by VikiHC

Latest update - check your insurance. To replace our trolley is going to be £570 + .....we were under insured on our trolley (value £400 we thought )  excess (£100)..   Now Insurance will not pay out to replace the "hack sawed" through rigging.
We think we will be shopping around when it comes to renewal & checking the small print !
Any suggestions for insurance companies?

Who are you insured with ?


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Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 06 Feb 11 at 8:01pm
As we haven't been paid out yet, would, rather not say at this moment!!


Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 08 Feb 11 at 8:29pm
I can understand them not paying the whole amount for you trolley but whats the excuse for not paying for the bridle wire.
 
 


Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 09 Feb 11 at 6:42am
Turns out we got the "Office Junior" who did not know what a bridle wire was !!!
Having now spoken to a much more senior person after fine reading policy booklet. We are covered... but it was agrro / hassle we could have done with out! 
I have always expected Insurance agents/brokers to look after their customers, rather feel customer service is lacking in this case.
Food for discussion....
As Cat trax / Euro trax have jumped in price so much, over the last few years, should our insurance agents/brokers have advised us to increase our cover?
After all it would have been more business for them.
I do remember in the distance past "Wendy House" issuing warning letters re theft of items / advice to secure boats etc.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Feb 11 at 8:12am
Originally posted by VikiHC

should our insurance agents/brokers have advised us to increase our cover

I bet your renewal notice contained some fine print about making sure that the cover is still adequate...


Posted By: nickiv
Date Posted: 11 Feb 11 at 8:02pm
Perhaps i am missing the point but i would not expect an insurer/broker to know the new price of a Kat Traks trolley. This is like saying that my home insurer should know the new price of my LCD TV and advise me of that before renwal.
 
The insurer/broker sent you a renewal notice surely it is your responsibility to check that the values are correct.  Do you really expect the insurer/broker to offer renewal to you and than suggest the new cost of certain items. Come on get real. Be it my car, house or boat i make sure that the values on my documentation is correct. I would not expect anyone else to do this and i would also expect that the insure/broker would not want to do this in case those values are incorrect. 


Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 11 Feb 11 at 10:59pm
Originally posted by nickiv

Perhaps i am missing the point but i would not expect an insurer/broker to know the new price of a Kat Traks trolley. This is like saying that my home insurer should know the new price of my LCD TV and advise me of that before renwal.
 
The insurer/broker sent you a renewal notice surely it is your responsibility to check that the values are correct.  Do you really expect the insurer/broker to offer renewal to you and than suggest the new cost of certain items. Come on get real. Be it my car, house or boat i make sure that the values on my documentation is correct. I would not expect anyone else to do this and i would also expect that the insure/broker would not want to do this in case those values are incorrect. 

I think that I must beg to differ with that point Nick, I use Noble Marine for my boat insurance primarily because they do seem to have a decent understanding of what they are insuring.......yes, I probably could get cheaper insurance but I'd rather pay a few quid more and feel confident that my insurance policy covers any potential losses (including trolley, road-base etc.)

Nigel


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Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 12 Feb 11 at 7:34am
I did say it was a point for discussion - perhaps I am old fashioned but I would expect an insurer to be more aware of the cost of replacement especially as when we got the "Eurotrax" we did up our trolley value considerably & probably stated it was a "Cat tracks / Eurotrax". With the house insurance we have listed items over a certain value under that value they will pay out.
Not that we are in the habit of making claims.



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