Europe
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Topic: Europe
Posted By: winging it
Subject: Europe
Date Posted: 08 Nov 10 at 3:31pm
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Is there anyone around the Cambridge area who has a Europe they would be prepared to let a friend of mine try? She is short and light and wants a responsive, affordable dinghy. A dinghy instructor, so your boat would be in safe hands! Other considerations have been a streaker and a laser, but the former is expensive in grp and the latter is really a bit too big. cheers, Nessa ------------- the same, but different... |
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 08 Nov 10 at 5:42pm
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Have you / she thought about a Splash? Cheap, she'll be comfortable and they are dam good boats.
------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 08 Nov 10 at 6:08pm
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Get |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 08 Nov 10 at 6:50pm
Very helpful, oh and if you read correctly, said friend is female.  ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Nov 10 at 7:39pm
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If she can get to Haversham (Milton Keynes), I'm sure there are people there who would let her try a Lightning, if she doesn't need a cvrda qualifying boat? I bought one coz it was cheap, plastic and I'm too small for a Laser.
If she'd like to, I'll try and find a contact. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 10:21am
 Don't you love this forum, Nessa? You're asking a simple Yes / No question and, all of the sudden, you get loads of suggestions to try boats you're not looking for!
I'm not having a go, guys, I just find it amusing because it never fails.  ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 10:27am
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I am surprised no one has recommended a Cherub yet!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 10:36am
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I've tried the - being helpful route and answering the posters question, it doesn't seem to work on this forum, so I've decided that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. And as my splash is FORSALE I thought I would selfishly plug it. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 11:07am
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Has she thought about a Cherub? (Just for you merlinboy  )------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 11:26am
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The sailor in question has tried a CII already as thete is one to hand. She did like it but is still unsure hence the request for a Europe..... ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 1:30pm
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mind you, there is a cherub for sale in the boat park.... Yes Isabelle, but I resign myself to the inevitable, hoping to sort the wheat from the chaff... ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 2:00pm
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Is it for sale by it's owner or by the club though Nessa.... last I heard they were refusing to pay and refusing to move it! ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 3:45pm
it's for sale by the club..... ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 3:58pm
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Any Cherub-ites out here after a classic Cherub then, was in pretty good nick when I last stuck my head under the cover.... ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 8:31pm
And so she should, a good one is a much nicer boat... but there in lies the problem. So few new ones make it to this country now that the fleet is gradually getting older and more worn out, and the good ones are hard to come by. But having sailed a Byte with old and new rig on several occasions... and having owned 2 Europe's in the past I know which one I'd buy... again Ian ------------- RS300 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 10:31pm
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The reason for asking about Europes was that they are cheapish and smaller than a Laser, so I can't see how making a suggestion about another boat that fits the bill (especially as Europes don't appear to be that cheap currently) is unhelpful.
If a Europe is what is wanted, fair enough. Nice boats, owned a couple over the years.
Yea gods, this forum would be boring if yes/no questions were answered with a yes or a no. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Rachie
Date Posted: 10 Nov 10 at 10:30pm
I'll take that as a no then... ------------- 4 boats and counting - but find me a boat to be passionate about! |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 11 Nov 10 at 1:08pm
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Have you contacted the Europe association? And just keep watching ebay and the free ads boat sites until one comes up, and take it for a test sail before buying, if possible. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 11 Nov 10 at 3:55pm
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Rupert, the class sec is actually at neighbouring Grafham, so I've suggested Rachie gets in touch and tries to wrangle a test sail. I know my Europe - can't even remember the sail number ended up down your way somehere... Great little boat, but I always felt I was a bit too tall. Now I am just plain too fat.... ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 11 Nov 10 at 4:25pm
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Looking at the little pictures on the left there - there is always a British Moth ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 11 Nov 10 at 6:07pm
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I did suggest a BM as a choice, especially as Hunts is anticipating a moth invasion for the winter (better than killer shrimp I suppose) but I think she is allergic to wooden boats . I don't suppose my lot set the best example... edited to say that a quick glance at apollo duck shows two grp versions for sale... ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: Rachie
Date Posted: 11 Nov 10 at 6:50pm
Wooden boats - bringing me out in hives just thinking about it! Have you seen my woodwork skills  ------------- 4 boats and counting - but find me a boat to be passionate about! |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 11 Nov 10 at 7:11pm
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Plenty of glass BMs around, though not necessarily for sale currently, of course. Trouble is, the old ones are heavy and the newer ones aren't old enough to be cheap. If condition doesn't matter, an old GRP BM is bulletproof! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 12 Nov 10 at 3:23am
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if you sail on a small lake, its very hard to beat a british moth. have seen 861 at the nationals, its a fast boat. my wife has not looked back since she got one. she now wonders why she wasted so many years sailing a laser!  ------------- |
Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 12 Nov 10 at 4:38am
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might be worth it
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/International-Europe-Single-Handed-Sailing-Dinghy_W0QQitemZ120644229935QQcategoryZ98955QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D260672461649%252B260672461649%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4892581265160301084 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/International-Europe-Single-Handed-Sailing-Dinghy_W0QQitemZ120644229935QQcategoryZ98955QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D260672461649%252B260672461649%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4892581265160301084 ------------- Phantom 1181 AC-227 IC 304 blaze / halo 586 |
Posted By: Rachie
Date Posted: 19 Nov 10 at 8:09pm
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Thanks for all the advice. I tried a Europe at Grafham and loved it, job done. I have found my boat to be passionate about and shock horror - it's a composite Europe! Well you can't help what you fall in love with... Proud owner of beautiful Europe 248 ------------- 4 boats and counting - but find me a boat to be passionate about! |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 20 Nov 10 at 2:24am
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nice boat! good choice! hope you have happy sailing!!! ------------- |