laser 2 types?
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Topic: laser 2 types?
Posted By: pro wannabe
Subject: laser 2 types?
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 8:39pm
ive got a laser 2 i race at the not so serius club series, and at roadford the other day i saw a laser 2 with an aysemmetric and a bowsprit, i also hear about a thing called a laser 2 world? i know what a fun is but im confused about the other types! if any one can shed some light on the matter and or tell me where i could get hold of an aysemmetric and bow sprit for mine i would be greatful! thanks!
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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 8:54pm
just adding to that, whats the difference between a laser 2 and a Laser 2 Regatta?
cheers
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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 9:18pm
The original design for the laser 2 had no spinnaker, then the regatta was designed with the conventional spinaker, then laser uk invernted the laser 2 fun which had a bodged bowsprit bolted to the foredeck and an asymmetric. This was then superseeded by the 3000 which is the same hull but a different deck. As for getting hold of bits, i doubt laser will have any knocking about, you could steal them of a dead one, or bodge your own. hopefully someone will know where another one is so you can work out what you need.
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Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 11:35pm
laser 2 was the first, with conventional kite, with bags, and had coloured sails. The laser 2 regatta was a development mainly for the british sailors, where sails become white (remember the phrase.. racing sails are white!) and the kite bags were dispensed in favour of a spinnaker chute.
Not sure about fun etc
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 1:59pm
The Laser fun is a 2 with assymetric and not too sure but maybe cut back sails. The World's boat was a special edition of the boat which I think had anodised blue spars, and lots of lovely nice bits but still the same as the original boat, just aesthetically different.
I had a 2 reggatta "accent", which was a lovely boat.......
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 2:32pm
as you are only sailing the boat at club leave you could make your own spinni sytem and have the kite size that you want!! hope you sort it out soon!!
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 2:39pm
You'd be best sticking to the conventional kite for a 2, their massive for the size of boat, it would keep the boat in the Laser 2 category where you have a good class of boats plus three sail reaching in the 2 is really good fun, the bow pops up easily and we used to be able to overtake much faster boats by just sailing the boat properly. Have a look at the two class association site to see if there are any kites going cheap second hand.
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Helensburgh S.C
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Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 24 May 05 at 9:04pm
Bloke at my club with a laser fun (no kite version) had his own bowsprit system rigged up by a fab shop (stainless tubes one sliding inside the other) and bought a 3k kite to fly on it. It ain't pretty but it works.
He may still have the designs if you're really interested.
Or just buy a 3k .......
PS: haven't we all had this conversation before ???
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 26 May 05 at 10:49am
I actually preffered the Laser 2 to the 3000, the 2 seemed more demanding and i felt she was a little quicker, although the PY's say different. The 2 seemed more of a racing boat to me but that's probably because I raced 2s and did coaching on 3s
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Posted By: andy_cherub
Date Posted: 26 May 05 at 11:49am
Bodging a laser 2 to have an asmy - dude, get a cherub! and when you 'bodge' at least itll still be class legal 
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 26 May 05 at 2:02pm
I'd even go as far to say that bodging a Laser 2 is ruining a perfectly good boat as it is
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Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 26 May 05 at 8:37pm
thanks! i think ill stick to the conventional kite, but i think mine isnt reggulation size? it seems really thin and the loop that the boom attaches to is really low compared to the others at the club!
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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 26 May 05 at 8:46pm
u mean, the loop on the front of the mast that the Spiniker pole attaches to?
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 1:26pm
We had two of those loop things on the mast of our old boat, think it was a modification to help stop you from running over the kite in light winds, still didn't help too much....
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Posted By: lozza
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 1:30pm
One loop means that the kite fills the whole of the boat when its dropped, two means that the kite won't go into the chute in the first place. Its a bit of a catch22 situation.
The most valuble piece of equipment on the L2 is the loop of wire on the bow!
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 1:37pm
Are you on about the metal loops on the mast for holding the pole or the ones at the front because I was on about the mast fitments. We decided to rip our bow catcher off because it usually caused more hassle than good and if you're dropping quickly, doesn't really matter about running down the kite appart from light winds when its not worth putting it up.
------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
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Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 30 May 05 at 9:40pm
yes im talking about the loop in front of the mast that the spinnaker pole attaches to, and i find the bow catcher really helpful, i only fitted it a month ago and i never run over my spinnaker now!
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Posted By: danielhawkes
Date Posted: 31 May 05 at 10:45pm
They are fantastic boats - luvley on a three sail reach as someone already said.
Hi, having migrated to a Cat i've a few L2 bits kicking about, including a nearly new (white) kite if you are interested.
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 01 Jun 05 at 11:28am
Does anyone know where GBR 8471 is????
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Posted By: lozza
Date Posted: 01 Jun 05 at 12:39pm
8471, good old SQWONK!!!
Last i saw, it had converted its spinny pole into a torpedo
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 01 Jun 05 at 12:53pm
Did Ian do that or was that down South? Can't believe we lost our pole by dropping it in the water, got a new one then found the old one washed up on the beach a few weeks later. Some boat eh?
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Helensburgh S.C
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Posted By: lozza
Date Posted: 01 Jun 05 at 2:04pm
Think it was ian, aiming at the caravan park.
Was was the full list of replacement items on the boat?
I got a spinny pole in the eye at uni, crew was a bit overeager to drop the kite. Same day i almost ripped a finger off on the shroud, not a pleasant day, that was the last time i sailed one!
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 02 Jun 05 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by lozza
Think it was ian, aiming at the caravan park.
Was was the full list of replacement items on the boat?
I got a spinny pole in the eye at uni, crew was a bit overeager to drop the kite. Same day i almost ripped a finger off on the shroud, not a pleasant day, that was the last time i sailed one!
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Replacement list for the 2- one kite, one kite pole, one rudder and stock, one tiller, a few extensions, countless ammounts of blocks and the Laser Centre put a new mast on her when we swapped her for the 5000. We also out of her free will put a few new sails on her and replaced all the ropes, the hull was still immaculate though. She was one seriously sorted boat and I still miss her We only put a new mast on the 5000 and she was sorted when we sold her. The 49er has only needed a daggerboard due to a crew landing on it.
Saying that though we did really hammer the two over 4 years, remember going three sail reaching over taking 505s and the spreaders ripping off, not a nice experience and we were really screaming at that regatta till that point......gutted
------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
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