ARGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!
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Topic: ARGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Subject: ARGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!
Date Posted: 10 May 05 at 4:52pm
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I've got a topper (it's very cute b.t.w lol), and it's got some of those gadgety racing things on it, but now you can get centre mains and a new sail... how do they improve a topper??! Do they actually make it go faster??! If so...im buying some hehe!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 10 May 05 at 5:04pm
In the only study that's ever been done centremains made Toppers fractionally slower (but not enough to notice) |
Posted By: neilw
Date Posted: 10 May 05 at 7:47pm
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Jim, Do you know of any studies that show the potential imapct of gadgety racing things? If so where can I get some from? ------------- |
Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 10 May 05 at 8:31pm
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Don't know of any studies done on race gadgets. They basically just make the boat easier to control- able to adjust controls (kicker/downhaul/outhaul) better. The mainsheet trials were done a couple of years ago at Island Barn, as part of the trialing process. http://www.wet-windy.co.uk/acatalog/Spares.html - http://www.wet-windy.co.uk/acatalog/Spares.html http://www.roostersailing.com - www.roostersailing.com 2 popular places... |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 10 May 05 at 11:35pm
Nope. I'm not aware of any trials of anything to do with racing dinghy performance in the UK which you could say produced much in the way of meeaningful data. The nearest is probably http://www.cherubpres.f9.co.uk/toppertrial/report.htm - the aforesaid Topper eval which is really only valid for moderate wind and flat water...Doing this sort of thing is very time consuming and demanding, and most folk can't be bothered. They'd rather go racing! There's a simple reason why the Bethwaite SMODs are an order of magnitude better than all the others - the Bethwaites are the only people who do proper R&D... It would for instance be very interesting to tow test or even tank test (they're about the sams size as tank test models!) a representative selection of Cherub and National 12 hull shapes and see what you could learn. |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 11 May 05 at 7:36am
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Merrrrrrrci boucoup und danke schon I didn't understand much from that, apart from the fact that buying extra jadgety garbage is a waste of time and money... although it does look nice!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 11 May 05 at 6:30pm
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No hang on a sec!!! Right on a topper there is many different types of race rig and all of these are slightly different. Many people have the worlds race rig which is the best and gives the maximum purchase the class allows which means that you can put more force onto a certain part of the sail in order to change its sail shape. If you go to any Topper opens/nats/worlds you will see that not ONE person has a boat which isnt race riggred, this is because if you want to race competitively, you want to be able to accurately adjust the shape of the sail to suit the conditions. If you are only oging to muck about in 'normal' sailing conditions e.g. force 2/3 you are probably all right not being 'race rigged. As the conditions get harder you do really need the race rig becuase non race rigged topprs are very hard to depower and this means you will not be able to egt the boat flying at its full potential and it will do annoying things like roundning up because the centre of effort is too far back in the sail. Having the race rig means things like this are much easier to control therefore making the boat more pleasant to sail in stronger AND very light conditions. There you go hope this makes sense if not PM me!! ALso me and harry are race rigged so it must be good
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 11 May 05 at 6:41pm
In short yes race controlls can make you're boat 10x faster (if used correctly), the new sail probably won't make any difference in speed, but won't wear out as quick ------------- |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 11 May 05 at 10:50pm
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That data on the centre main shows nothing significant. Did they weigh the boats? Also long as you have the ability to set and trin the sail with ease the thing that will impact your speed is the flexible link between the tiller, mainsheet and boat i.e. the helm. Copy the top guys set ups and get out an pratice - you can't buy success in the Topper - that is one reason it's such a great boat. Rick ------------- |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 13 May 05 at 8:24pm
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Well said rick ! Dont buy the extras and expect to suddenly speed up, you have to race as much as possible then maybe buy the extras to give a more accurate control of the sail. ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 13 May 05 at 8:49pm
| Rick, we purchased 3 new boats last summer, and all of them were within .2kg of each other, and approximately if I recall, .5kg above publicised hull weight. At the same time we weighed a boat which was 18-20 years old, and this was 3kg lighter than the lightest new boat! |
Posted By: lemeouttahere
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 9:42am
| moral of the story is get your sailing skills up before splashing out too much |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 4:20pm
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Hey waverider...what boat do u sail down at chew??! As for the moral letmeouttahere, (long name but lovely b.t.w Mind you, it stops your arms from seizing up! Hey waverider, how do I get involved in the wednesday sailing (eve)...is it for the elite class only or can anyone get involved in the races??! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 8:05pm
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Mate, ANYONE at all can race on wednesday evening and its a great place to race because it is fairly quiet compared to sunday and there is some very good people but mot are average. I Race a Topper with the fleet (43011) and sometimes bomb about in a fireball. What do you sail there? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 8:25pm
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Wicked!!! Wat's ur name?! I sail a topper - 41825 - (it's very cute b.t.w lol Hey...is ur's pink??! I'm asking that even if you are a boy lol! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 10:59pm
I wouldn't say it was quieter than a sunday... the first wednesday of this year had almost 100 boats for the evening race. had about 35 in the handicap fleet, same again in the laser fleet and about 20 in slow handicap. Was a good race apart from us in a rs800 almost ran a solo down 
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 17 May 05 at 7:10am
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I'd love to race but i just don't know where to start cos im so awful I'd probably be disqualified only seconds after the start gun Ah well, I'll just pootle round a bit on sundays and then see if I can widen my social circle down at chew!! The only person who talks to me at the mo is ed!! Well, he's lovely company so I'm not complaining lol!!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 17 May 05 at 7:07pm
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Who's Ed? Yeah dont worry be confident you wont be disqualified quickly and think does it matter if you come last? Somebody has to come last dont they and if you are only just starting to race it may be you for a few races but then another beginner will come along and you will improve and move higher up the race results!!!! How old are you? I sail a RED (not pink) topper 43011 with a sponsor on the sail so its hard to miss! By the way some people at Chew are very competitive because its a competetive club so dont be put off by people luffing you round the mark the wrong way and loads of calls of 'starboard' , just do your best and eveyone will be encouraging. Your lucky cos the Topper fleet is very friendly My names Francis by the way.......When you going down next? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 7:29am
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Cheers!!! U sound like a very experienced sailor - thanx sooooooooo much I needed a bit of encouragement lol!!! Nice to meet u francis how old are u??! I'm 14, ( sail no 41825)!!!!! If I spot you I'll give you a very embarrasing cheery wave haha!!!! U're rite about the topper fleet being friendly - I had a really long chat with some random topper sailor when we were out on....er....Sunday, cos we were stuck there for about 20 mins with no wind Some other poor souls started sinking too, cos they forgot to put the bung in!!! I'll probably go on the start of half-term cos I'm doin a french exchange!!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 9:08am
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Oh right ok, Oh right yeah say hi when you se me and no im not very experienced but i do a lot of racing at diffrent clubs... Whats ur name incase i see it on the results board?? K have a good france thingy. ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 1:27pm
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the topper centre main , in the long run makes the boat faster! having sailed through the transition from rear sheeted to centre, its easy to say that it makes the boat faster!, you can get the weigt ditributed better, and there are no rear sheeted mains to be found high in the rankings at all either, as for the new sail, its actually a smaller sail for lighter sailors to stop them having to reef. The centre main is well worth it, you should go for it, but do remember you need a longer tiller extension wehich is not included in the conversion kit, the sailing solution aluminium one is just as good as any carbon one btw and its about half the price, id strongly recomend it aswell as going for the holt centre main option , it used to be that ronstan was better, but now with this years holt kit it actually is a better kit! or if you can afford it put together all the parts you need yourself and go for harken carbon blocks if you want top of the fleet spec. the conversion is alo easily done and take about half an hour to make the modification all in all. And the "gadgety" things do make a difference if they are the worlds spec, as they have the maximum purchase permitted making it easier to control the sails. hope this all helps ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 1:34pm
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but yeh forgot to say, with sailing the one message would be that theres no substitute for time on the water practicing! so just go for it regardless of the situation. ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: lemeouttahere
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 1:37pm
why thank you, i hav it coz when i set up my email it was someting no one else had and is so bizzare i dont get junk. my advice with gadgets lyk this is to sail without it until you know and can see how it helps. classic example i sailed for years without a tiller extension till i worked out that i could sit farther out with one which would help me go faster. ya catch my drift? |
Posted By: lemeouttahere
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 1:40pm
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i second that motion, you can be told all sorts of things but the best way to learn them is to sail and discover how they work your self |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 4:08pm
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There is a new 4.2 sail which is the one you are refering to here, but we were talking about the new full size desgn also available now, totaly agree with wehat you say about c/m. ------------- |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 4:14pm
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I've got it!!! I've got the new design sail - picked it up today from Sailing Solutions. I hope I'll be sailing tonight... I'll let you know what it feels like ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 4:44pm
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Tell me how it goes with the new sail, b.n.s!!! Hope you have a great time, an don't fall in lemeouttahere, that's a very interesting history to the name, mine just appeared out of nowhere 1 (fine, summers) day!!! haha Hey chris, despite being very complicated, I actually understand what your sailing jargon means (round of applause for me here
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!! Not saying you're inexperienced!!! I agree with everyone so there's no point in me putting quotes, cos as they say "practise makes perfect" (yawwwn hehehe)!!! 
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 6:02pm
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Lol im sure you'll be fine ! Im pretty sure you will get some decnt wind soon! the last three topper training's have all been done in white horses !!! Try and come down to the next topper training if you can, they normally hire a professional coach. Whats ur name by the way? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 6:09pm
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if you are pretty small you might want to consider the new 6:1 downhaul, you dont need to buy a whole new system either, its just the old world style 1 with an extra clock at the top providing a cascade effect so the mod. will cost bout £8 to do really less if you dont want top spec kit
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 18 May 05 at 8:32pm
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My name's ellie b.t.w!!! I'll try and get myself down to the next topper training day - do you do them??! I might even make an appearance on wed in the half term (oooooooh Cheers chris, that's v v v useful!! I think i'll get to know the kit first, but it's always better to learn how to upgrade when the time's right!!! Hey, b.t.w waverider - ed was ed leeming, laser!!! Do you know him??! Oh, ye, are you in the same yr as me??! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 7:44am
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Im in yr nine! U? No i dont dothe topper training lol they hire an rya coach ! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 3:08pm
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TheSeaFalcon, I sailed a proper new topper with centre main the other week, I'm 12.5 stone and it was about F3 and it really flew for a a topper! I club race a laser full rig, they're such awful boats, the rig bends which in my view ins't good, all that power going to waste! I normall sail cherubs, N12 and merlins. Much better boats! But toppers are brilliant fun, you can drive them into other toppers and they don't break! Wa hoo! ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 4:38pm
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the centre main just gives you an all round better feeling of control of a topper, and thus much much more confidence, and no body has ever converted back to rear sheeted, you should definetly go for it ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 5:38pm
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Wicked...me too waverider!!! no daftie I wonder how b.n.s got on with her 5.2 sail??! As you said tgruitt, toppers are indestructable (and cute haha), I've been bashed quite a number of times...and it honestly wasn't my fault ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 6:23pm
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Thnx for looking after me! to answer to an earlier posting, I am completely inexperienced and quite useless on a boat, really However, the new sail is so different. With the old one, when I pulled the outhaul, the sail wasn't getting flatter, it was getting longer! This new 5.8 is very responsive. I found tacking and gybing much easier, even at my level in a top force 4. Yes, I got it wet.... Yesterday, I also got my Topper fixed: the transom plate bolts were loose and taking in an awful lot of water. I took it to Sailing Solutions. Dave and his son Adam fixed it in no time. Very nice people, very helpful - I do recommend them ! Soooo, I'm slowly getting there... New rigging, new sail, getting more confident, hiking out with great satisfaction, etc. Who knows? I might even be racing one day !!!! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 6:27pm
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Ah, sounds like you're in the same boat as me (sorry that's a bad phrase Sounds like it was really good!! I've just got the norm sail, it's white and purple...very stylish lass i am (lmao How long have you been sailing a topper?? ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 6:40pm
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I've been married to a sailor for quite a while. About 4 years ago, soon after we joined Lancing SC, I believed your English proverb "If you can't beat them..." and I had a go. Until last year, I haven't been sailing more than 2 or 3 times a year, because of babysitting! Someone has to look after the kids !!! I've managed to convince a friend that my little angels are no bother, so I've started sailing a little more at the end of last season and this year too. So, to answer your question: "How long have you been sailing a topper??" NOT VERY LONG !! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 6:41pm
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Definately get c/m, in all but the lightest winds it is a huge advantage, especially in waves (in comfort more than speed tho)
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Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 8:06pm
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i had a topper a while ago i dont know if gadety bits help or the rest of it, i had the simplest rig i could have, and won the club series. so ... ------------- Your spinni aint as big as your mouth! |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 10:25pm
you're my new hero 
------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 8:41am
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ditto (timnoyce) to you pro wannabe!!! Sounds exactly the same as me b.n.s, despite the fact I haven't got kids, I'm not married, and I don't babysit.... Harry, you said that a centre main was better for comfort, but does it actually make you go faster??! I know you have to have skill, practise e.t.c anyway to go faster, but is it actually speedier than the aft main?? ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
!!!! hehe!!Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 8:49am
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C/m is no faster but it is more confy and you can get a better wave technique which you WILL need at chew ehen you start sailing in 25 knots + \!
So only buy it when you really want it because if you are planning any big events you need some practise first.
And yes i have dont loads of the topper training days and they are great fun. ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 9:40am
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Wicked!!! Who do you know down there??! Cheers for the info, you seem a pretty sorted kinda person!! Hey everyone - I've become a groupie now (wahoo
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hahaha!!!! Have a fabby week every1!!Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 20 May 05 at 10:46am
Lol rele there isnt too much hot goss at the mo. France sounds fun  ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 1:22pm
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they have cheese in france. yum yum ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 5:50pm
yer dont forget all that free wine they give you!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 6:31pm
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good point! cheese and wine and bread and hot french girls! ooh la la! ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 6:33pm
yer but most of the french girls r mingers!! lol ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 6:40pm
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france has more to offer than cheese,wine and girls sheesh- men ey!
think about all the pretty thingd like monets garden, eifel tower chans e lysee (scuse the spelling). but at least were still better sailors than them ------------- byte me!- GBR 814 |
Posted By: terraslazer
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 8:23pm
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i heard french girls have hairy air pits. ummmm not good ------------- Laser Radial For Sale For Details And Pictures See http://mylaserforsale.orbitaltec.net/ |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 21 May 05 at 9:19pm
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yer it is probily true!! but i cant say that from experience!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 22 May 05 at 12:09am
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im sure bns wil love u saying that lol ------------- byte me!- GBR 814 |
Posted By: bigwavedave
Date Posted: 22 May 05 at 8:18am
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Crikey wait till she gets back from the Contender nationals. You lot are in for it ------------- 
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 22 May 05 at 11:53am
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i forgot about that too! but they did make the pfennick dinghy! which is bloody fast with a 470 rig on it with a 505 kite! ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 6:26pm
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France was mint - i didn't check out the hair either sos, cos that'd be extremely disturbed, but yes to wine, cheese, and no you're wrong it's not fit girls, but seriously fit boys (with mopeds...i dunno bout boats!!)!!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 6:30pm
sorry but are u a guy "sea falcon"? ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 7:21pm
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ha...er...take a good, l o n g guess....
I think not ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 27 May 05 at 8:08pm
oh ok sorry!! but i just soundered a bit wierd and i looked on ur profile and there was nothing there! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 29 May 05 at 11:29pm
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Thanks for that, BWD, but I've heard it all over the last 15 years I've been here... French girls are all mingers?? Yeah right! That's cos English boys can't pull pretty birds! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 30 May 05 at 12:33pm
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You've got it in 1 b.n.s!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 31 May 05 at 8:31am
Hey - in this issue of Y&Y there's this article on Chew Valley Lake - me being lazy, i haven't got round to buying the mag yet (shock horror ).... what does it say??! I'd really like to know!!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 31 May 05 at 8:45am
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It says... get a subscription! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 03 Jun 05 at 3:45pm
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yer and the subscrition means you can still be lazy!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 03 Jun 05 at 7:50pm
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Sounds perfect for me then...!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 03 Jun 05 at 7:59pm
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Got it in one! (nothing personal, seaFalcon... your profile is too blank for me to guess anything!) ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 04 Jun 05 at 8:19am
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hehe...dw b.n.s!!! Hey have u ever heard of a scandalosa, or scandalosa sailing??! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 04 Jun 05 at 9:24am
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Nope! That sounds appetizing, though... Have you done it, then? ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 04 Jun 05 at 2:14pm
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No, but it looks on one website like a yacht - im going to spain with school in a week, and it said that's what we're doing!!! Sounds crazy , i can't wait!!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 04 Jun 05 at 6:15pm
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last night i went out in a laser (rubbish i know, I'm sorry) and practiced sailing backwards, was going quite fast and then pitch poled it backwards, what i want to know is, is this still called a pitch pole? I wish someone had a camera, If someone is around with one I will try it again! ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 04 Jun 05 at 6:44pm
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you could call it a tail walk or something like that? nice one tho!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 11:57am
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hehe!! aww, well it sounds pretty crazy, watever it's called!! Wouldn't it be a "reverse pitch-pole", or is that just a boring name for it??! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 1:27pm
------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 1:44pm
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that's cos u sail Thursday, Saturday and Sunday normally...how the flippin hell do u get anything else done or meet up with mates and stuff? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 3:42pm
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well practis makes purfect and u need to practis ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 3:51pm
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Oi im not that bad and nobody is perfect at sailing you can always improve on something! like my strong point is heavy wind sailing...i have only just started getting really serious about racing......youve been oding it for about 3 years !!!! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:09pm
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Hey, cool it ginger_69 ! We've all got our weaknesses, and compared to me, i'd say waverider was damn experienced !! I'm sure ur both good at different aspects of sailing - i even know some people who are experts at capsiszing !! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:15pm
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Lol Ed knows who im on about cough luke rawlings cough!!! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:17pm
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miss Falcon can i plz have ur msn addy plz plz plz mine is mailto:ME_bkagen6@hotmail.com - ME_bkagen6@hotmail.com u can add me if u want and i was the 1 who u were chattin to yesterday (Tedward on the boyancaid) ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:19pm
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LOLOLOLOLOL!! that makes me laugh tedward ! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:37pm
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sorry if i was a bit big headed irlyer but it had to be said sorry frank. ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:40pm
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I'll forgive you........put it down to exam stress lol !
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Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:47pm
yes GCSES is a stress full time  ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 5:14pm
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Lol awwwww o well all be over in about 3 weeks then the grand studland trip with eveyone ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 6:06pm
i wouldn't get too big headed, a couple of trophies for dodgy club series isn't as good as you obviously think it is- but you apologized so oh well! ------------- |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 6:15pm
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hey ed!! Yeah, dw il add you, I don't really want to put my addy up for everyone to see B.tw. is that u in ur piccy, or someone really random...?! (ginger_69) Oh hey waverider, you know what i said in that bit of text Harry's got, I forgot to give you that embarrassing cheery wave
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 6:51pm
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Enlarge ginger_69's avatar and you'll see it MUST be him (right-click on the pic, choose Properties at the bottom of the list, Copy & Paste the address into a new browser window and hey! there's a charming Topper sailor!) ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 7:05pm
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HI YES IT IS ME ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 7:07pm
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that was when i was just mesing round at bristol avon. the boat u saw me in yesterday was not mine it is the club 1 do u have a pic of u that u could sed me plz ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 7:19pm
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"black no sugar" - ASL and name plz
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Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 8:13pm
Aww, mint wat's ur real sail no then Ed??  ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 8:19pm
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Sea Falcon look at the bottom of his posts his sail number is 29412 ........he uses his sail on the club boat dont you ed so the club boat doesnt look as crap as it really is ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 8:26pm
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Cheers, i swear i have some blonde roots growing through!! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 8:31pm
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LOL ! well dnt worry im completely blonde in every possible way (hair aswell) as im sure ed will tell you ?! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 9:03pm
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um yes Frank. 29412 and that was my sail i was using yesterday(sat) and it is red and i wasnt in it on sat. and it does say it on my signiture ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Jun 05 at 6:23pm
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will they ever make the 69er? if they do I want. I wonder what the insignia on the sail could be ...... ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: maxim
Date Posted: 06 Jun 05 at 7:16pm
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well they've started developing a canting keel
'skiff-like keelboat' 79er haven't they... That leaves two gaps - 39 and 69... |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 06 Jun 05 at 7:25pm
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they have got the 29er 49er and 59er i think ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 06 Jun 05 at 8:03pm
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tgruitt i think we could come up wiv a few suggestions for them, nuttin rude of course ------------- Jon Vortex 1169 http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 06 Jun 05 at 8:38pm
Oh no, of course nothing rude!! Are we talking 2-man boat there? For a class with number 69??? Knowing sailors' usual sense of humour, I really don't think that will ever happen... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 06 Jun 05 at 8:42pm
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in once knew a powerboat an absolute flying machine, that was called 69er. with some very interesting erm.........grafixs ------------- Jon Vortex 1169 http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club |