Contender
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Topic: Contender
Posted By: mattmd
Subject: Contender
Date Posted: 22 Jun 10 at 10:56pm
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Hey, ive been looking on apolloduck and the class website
for a contender, they are all sold or like over £2500 I was just wondering if anyone knows anyone with a boat for sale or a good site. Thanks Matt ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 22 Jun 10 at 11:07pm
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Matt, You will easily be able to buy a rondar contender for £2000, but you may have to wait until one becomes available. Dinghys are not like cars in that there are fewer around.
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 23 Jun 10 at 7:58am
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It depends what you are looking for, but anything that is trouble free will be £2500 and up - When I sold 651 it was in this region, and that was on a 10 year old boat You will find the occasional boat come up for sail at a low price, but these are usually to be avoided unless you are willing to do some work. Think of it like buying a car - 2nd hand and trouble free £2500+, Banger £500! I concur with MB though, stand your ground and go for something that fits your budget when it arrives - but don't expect much to be on the market until October / November - season end ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 23 Jun 10 at 9:17am
Or for 2,500 you could buy a competitive 600! 
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 23 Jun 10 at 10:05am
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Hi Matt, I may know of one for sale. I will check with the person who owns it and send you the details. Cheers, Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: mattmd
Date Posted: 23 Jun 10 at 4:02pm
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Thanks
I realise I will have to wait a while, but really im looking for a race ready contender. I think 2 500 would be by limit but hopefully something will come up around that. Thanks Paul That would be much appreciated Matt ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 23 Jun 10 at 5:12pm
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Jeffers means me Matt. I had 620 for sale for a while because I can't sail right now. But it has a full carbon rig (unlike 651) so I was asking c£3k even though it's an older boat. I've been watching the contender market for a while because I would simply be upgrading to a newer boat. There are some around for less than £1000, but not much in the middle market. Unfortunately for some the attraction of a great Worlds in Weymouth next year means most people are hanging on to their boats for fear of selling then not ebing able to get a replacement - including me! ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: mattmd
Date Posted: 23 Jun 10 at 10:42pm
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Yes, I mean Ive been warned of early Rondar Hulls,
apparently are quite heavy so been looking for later ones sort of past 500 and early wavelengths. Also had my eye on the Blaze market as well as they seem a good boat and there all ready one at my club. Matt ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 24 Jun 10 at 9:46am
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I took Ronday 473 to Canada to be chartered for the worlds and it was still on weight when measured in. I would suggest joining the contender yahoo group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contender/ and also visiting the new forum on the international site: http://contenderclass.org/ If you ask around you can sometimes get a boat before it comes on the market - that's how I got 620 ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: tim grasse
Date Posted: 24 Jun 10 at 12:30pm
| i might be selling my contender in august for about £1000 if you want it send me an email the hull is fairly old but if you were thinking of spending £2000 on a boat you would have enough to spend on some carbon for it |
Posted By: mattmd
Date Posted: 24 Jun 10 at 4:08pm
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Ok, well ive joined the yahoo group so ill look on there,
and see what I can do. I mean im not to fused about carbon I mean that would be a huge bonus, Im really just concerned about heavy hulls, Would a light carbon rig make up for a slightly heavy hull? But thanks for the help anyway :) Matt ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 25 Jun 10 at 9:14pm
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Matt, I might know of one...have PM'd you. |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 25 Jun 10 at 10:05pm
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There's one at my club. Wavelength hull and rig, carbon boom, several sails. Seems in good nick. £2000. Owner upgraded to a shinier one with more carbon on it. I was on the brink of buying it myself ... but don't know when I'd sail it. ------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: mattmd
Date Posted: 25 Jun 10 at 10:29pm
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o sounds excactly what im looking for could you get me a
contact number or a way of contacted them as i would be seriously interested. Many Thanks Matt ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
Posted By: charliegarner
Date Posted: 26 Jun 10 at 12:28am
Hey matt, my friend tim is selling his contender and is not expecting anything over 1500. i will talk to him if you like?? ------------- Charlie Garner |
Posted By: mattmd
Date Posted: 26 Jun 10 at 6:53pm
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yes please, some details on the boat would be greatly
appreciated. ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 27 Jun 10 at 8:50am
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Snap. I've already told him Nick! |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 11:39am
| What might the price be for an old Contender with a wooden deck capable of being made pretty again? Say, for a back-of-fleet sailor. |
Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 1:46pm
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You could always buy a nice indestructible Vortex for not much money that will be in "ready to race at the front" condition. Quite a lot have got asymmetrics on now and there a few good 'uns for sale at the moment of both kit and non-kite variety? Unless it is specifically a contender and in wood that you want? ------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 3:04pm
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I do like the look of the Vortex, but I can only own wooden boats - its a strange condition I've got. Wooden decks and plastic hull I can bear...
Oh, and I'll never be front-of-fleet anyway! |
Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 3:23pm
But you could be! The Bonezzi contenders are stunning. ------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 6:58pm
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Oh yes - Bonezzi Contenders. Someone come and mop me up ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 7:35pm
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Oh indeed ...... but not so pretty once you've bashed them on the landing stage / beach / a keel boat / someone's racks etc etc. A labour of love those things. Even the solo sailors at my place spend hours obsessing over eachothers varnish jobs; and the bonezzis are MUCH prettier boats (especially with a set of blood-axe carbon foils) .... ------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 7:53am
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I have come over all un-necessary again ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 8:24am
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Those Bonezzi boats are stunning. I saw an all wood varnished Scorpion many years ago, that looked very good as well. ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 9:57am
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I love wooden boats, but I would be terrified to own a Bonezzi for fear of damaging it.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 11:30am
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Would it live in your house as a prized piece of furniture? ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 11:43am
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Maybe you could protect it with a nice opaque layer of epoxy and glass to stop it getting damaged!
------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 4:15pm
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Paul, you should know Nik doesn't let boats in the house....yet... The trouble with epoxy and glass is that it is a complete bugger to remove if you do damage the boat (as I am finding with the classic fourteen) plus it also then tends to look a little 'plasticised' like some of the Paintcraft jobs I saw at the dinghy show. The first time I sailed my latest contender I stupidly stuck my hook into the gelcoat. had that been the wood of a Bonezzi I would have cried. if any crew falls out of the 14 they either get in very, very carefully or stay in the water! ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 4:28pm
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I was being facetious about wrapping the pretty wood in permanent plastic, however it would seem the techology is out there. All my graphics and foils on my boat are scratched from a harsh edge on my trapeze hook that needs grinding off. ------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 14 Jul 10 at 8:59pm
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Go on - you know it makes sense: Andrea playing with his precious
------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 11 Aug 10 at 9:37pm
Damn it! I have contradicted myself and appear to be buying a composite contender...I know I will be sorry... But this means 620 is now back on the market for anyone interested. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: mattmd
Date Posted: 15 Aug 10 at 7:02pm
I would be can you send me some info and pictures at mattmd95@hotmail.com thanks Matt ------------- Matt MD Contender GBR-620 |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 16 Aug 10 at 9:13am
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Why doesn't that Bonezzi boat appear to have a full length
gasket? |
Posted By: Sailing4Life
Date Posted: 16 Aug 10 at 9:24am
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Not sure it is full length, looks about half to me. ------------- Rs600 + many others |
Posted By: mongrel
Date Posted: 16 Aug 10 at 1:24pm
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They have a packing piece in the back of the case which is faired flush with the bottom of the hull, much smoother than sail cloth, and the half gasket lasts longer as it does get chewed up by the back of the board. |
Posted By: popeye_ali
Date Posted: 18 May 11 at 10:54pm
Posted By: tim grasse
Date Posted: 19 May 11 at 10:57am
| contender K491 is now on the market if you havn't found one at a reasonable price yet. |