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Europe v Byte CII

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Topic: Europe v Byte CII
Posted By: Stargazey
Subject: Europe v Byte CII
Date Posted: 16 May 10 at 12:09am
Can anyone give me a honest comparison of a Europe against the Byte CII ?  I have an old Europe - it is OK but the cost of anything that needs replacing is sky high.  Plus it is a bit of dead class in the UK.  On the other hand the Byte CII look nice and simple - but is it just a youth class?  I see only 14 or so turned up for the Nationals?  But is there more of a future with the Byte compared to the Europe?



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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 16 May 10 at 5:33pm
if you want higher nationals turn outs you'd be better off going for a 'Streaker'.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 16 May 10 at 6:01pm

There was an excellent 3 boat test in the 1st monthly Y&Y, wasn't there? Byte, Europe, Streaker? Streaker does appear on the up, at the moment.

As is the Lightning (quick plug...) which fits a similar niche.



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Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 16 May 10 at 8:21pm

I have both the europe and CII.

My europe is also,erm, in garage conditions undergoing work but the CII is a very fun boat especially in a blow.

 

Depending on your weight I would get a streaker if you are after a large fleet size.
I think about 60KG is ideal for the CII above that its the europe and its probably about 65-70 for the streaker??
Note the ? on streaker weight



Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 16 May 10 at 8:28pm
How much do you weight Stargazey?

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Posted By: Stargazey
Date Posted: 25 May 10 at 7:42pm

Thanks for the feedback so far.  I am 65 kilos and, to be honest, have never heard of a Lightning and wasn't aware that Streakers were on the up nor have I ever seen one in the flesh!



Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 25 May 10 at 8:18pm
If you click on the classes button on the Y&Y tool bar, you can find out all you want about all the boats mentioned.

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Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 26 May 10 at 1:48pm
At 65KGs you are at the top end for the Byte but this is probably your best option.

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Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 26 May 10 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by Jon Emmett

At 65KGs you are at the top end for the Byte but this is probably your best option.


the other to think about is, do you think you will be  puting on weight in the near future?

if you think you will, you would be better off with a streaker or a lightning.




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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 26 May 10 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by Stargazey

Thanks for the feedback so far.  I am 65 kilos and, to be honest, have never heard of a Lightning and wasn't aware that Streakers were on the up nor have I ever seen one in the flesh!






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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 26 May 10 at 4:02pm

Or the Lightning, which like to sail in formation...



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Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 26 May 10 at 5:34pm
If only I had a picture of the Byte in a Froce 6 so much fun.

Just dont gybe


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 26 May 10 at 6:22pm

Having sailed most small singlehanders, the thing they all have in common is that they are fun! I expect you'll enjoy whichever one you choose.

Tonic for sale if you just want cheap fun...



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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 27 May 10 at 11:13pm

Do a forum search I did a compare and contrast as I have sailed both. mind you...



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Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 28 May 10 at 10:21am
I've owned a couple of Europe's and sailed Bytes in both
old and new rig format and personally... I find the Europe
a much nicer boat in every respect, but I agree getting
hold of a good one is hard and can be pricey in comparison.

Ian

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