rs 200 furling jib?!
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Topic: rs 200 furling jib?!
Posted By: portlandboy
Subject: rs 200 furling jib?!
Date Posted: 09 Dec 09 at 8:03pm
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Hi. Further to asking on here advice on which boat to get, (see beginer boat choice question and answers by Portlandboy) the general consensus was an rs 200 would be ok for me and the missus as beginners (having just passed our rya 2!). I now want to know if it's possible to make the jib furling so that we can lose power easily if the wind picks up too quickly, or if this is a ridiculous idea and stupid question..also would it be helpful to have an old sail altered by a sail maker to create a smaller training sail? Please help as we are still confused how to play things but dead keen to get ourselves a dinghy that's good to improve on. Cheers.  |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Dec 09 at 8:17pm
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Possible yes, wise no. And again yes.
However I'd would question that the RS200 is really that great a choice as a beginner's boat. |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 09 Dec 09 at 9:08pm
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just get a smaller main, or one with a zip reef made, you could always try a laser 2000 mainsail and see if it fits. there may be some people getting rid of old kit that u can cut down for low money. and the advantage with a 200 is that u will learn quickly and not get bored just get a mast float to start ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: zzzz
Date Posted: 09 Dec 09 at 10:44pm
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Lots of tips and help on how to sail a 200 on the class association website especially under the sailing techniques section: " http://www.rs-association.com/index.asp?fleet=RS200&selection=Tuning Guides - http://www.rs-association.com/index.asp?fleet=RS200&sele ction=Tuning Guides " Best thing to do is go to some class training and learn the correct techniques. Would you want to furl the jib - no its tiny anyway (and the furling gear would completely foul the spinnaker). Would you want a cut down main - unlikely, its probably easier and a better long term investing your time and money into practice and training. A mast float as suggested above could make capsize recovery easier though. Good luck and most of all have fun |
Posted By: A Seabadger
Date Posted: 10 Dec 09 at 7:18am
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Didn't see your orriginal thread about "what boat" but agree with Jim C, I would question a 200 as a beginers boat. I have seen too many people at our club terrified by their RS200 and stop sailing. Having said that the RS200 is a great boat. ------------- I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every moment of it. |
Posted By: Fans1024
Date Posted: 10 Dec 09 at 10:14am
| Can't see the point of a furling jib on the 200 as it holds no power, well a bit but not enough to worry about. When I first sailed a 200 with my brother, we were a wee bit too light for it [about 3 stone under the minimum] and we two mains. 1 normal racing one and the other was a semi batterned, reefable one. It enabled to get out more and gave us a bit more time to react [previous boat was a mirror]. Also, as its been said before... mast float and go to training days. Another thing, I would fit capsize lines. Don't get disheartened by the swims. Good luck and enjoy yourselves. |
Posted By: ellistine
Date Posted: 11 Dec 09 at 9:31am
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Our Vago has a furling jib and to be honest it's horrible
sailing it with the jib furled. You'll more than likely end up stuck in irons when tacking. The Vago does however have a reefable main which reduces the sail area massively. It can also be reefed whilst on the water. Funnily enough it's also for sale and in Weymouth if you wanted a look  ------------- |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 11 Dec 09 at 9:59am
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Yep, the vago would be another good choice. The key thing about the jib is that it drives the bow through the wind on a tack. Too often people go out, it gets windy, so they drop the jib then struggle with just the main. Far better to drop the main then get back slowly and safely and well able to manoeuvre with just the jib.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 11 Dec 09 at 4:58pm
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I haven't seen the thread but would tend to agree with Jim, 200 is not a beginner boat but its also not that advanced. The big question is what conditions do you want to sail in and how comfortable are you with lots of capsizing while you learn. A lot might depend on what you learnt in but the 200 is not very forgiving and so needs to be sailed flat if you don't want to capsize. Don't bother with the furling jib or reefed main if its that windy stay ashore... which could well be anything over 12 knots until you get the hang of it. Suggest you try one and see what you think. Nessa's advice about dropping the main is sound for someone just starting, although without the main progress to windward will be painful (and near impossible in steep waves) and remember you won't be able to tack. ------------- Garry Lark 2252, Contender 298 www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk |
Posted By: ellistine
Date Posted: 11 Dec 09 at 5:55pm
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If you're sailing out of the Academy (i.e. without safety
cover) I would definitely say the Vago would be a good choice. We bought ours last year one month after doing our 1&2 and we've been more than happy with it. With Sail Laser having boats out on the water everyday they'll more than likely keep an eye on you if you're in a Laser craft. ------------- |