py of solos
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Topic: py of solos
Posted By: desteve1
Subject: py of solos
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 4:32pm
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The solo dinghy has such a slow pn ( only 30 or so higher than a topper) why ------------- laser 81188 (looking for a name) |
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 4:41pm
Because they're slow. If they went any faster, the sailors would die of excitment. I belive you need to show your buss pass to become a CA member.  ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 4:41pm
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Its not very fast...
Its quite short (key factor), its quite wide on the waterline, its rather heavy by modern standards... On the other hand it slips along nicely in the light and roll tacks well, so its good in its conditions... |
Posted By: desteve1
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 4:47pm
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but a topper shouldent be overtaking it especialy with me in it ------------- laser 81188 (looking for a name) |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 4:50pm
The difference between the best and worst sailors in just about any class is around 20%, or around 250 points of yardstick in the Topper/Solo area... So even the middle of a Topper fleet is likely to be able to overtake the bottom of a Solo fleet... |
Posted By: desteve1
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 5:14pm
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im suprised as they have such a large sail are compered to the topper ( when he finished for the day water came out of his hull though) ------------- laser 81188 (looking for a name) |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 7:32am
| I'm very suprised by that Steve, i have sailed at a club where Solos have been one of the dominent classes for a long time. I can't think of a time when a topper has done even the worse Solo sailor, so well done. |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 1:20pm
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I don't know... we've beat Solo's and Toppers on the water in the Mirror on a
good day. Can't get past the top Solo guys on handicap at the moment though.  ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 1:47pm
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I guess the Solo PY is representative as they are a very numerious class and must have had lots of returns done over the years. Just shows for some speed is unimportant. ------------- |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 2:13pm
As only a tiny handful of people in the world sail C Class catamarans the logical deduction is that speed is unimportant for just about *everyone*. |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 2:15pm
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That would be taking that comment to the extreme ... but I suppose so ... ------------- |
Posted By: desteve1
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 4:10pm
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solo's seam to heal like crazy in gusts but not surge forward like a laser or a topper where every wind change changes the boat speed in about a second ------------- laser 81188 (looking for a name) |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 4:41pm
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Thats just because they're not being sailed properly. The difference in standard between the solo fleets at club/local open level to that of the fleet at the nationals is huge. Almost everyone in the top 30 at the nationals is a bloody good sailor with most of the top 15 having finnished in the top 10 at a worlds or euro's in other classes. ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 5:52pm
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The difference between a Solo handicap (1155) and a Topper (1290), if they are still that this year, is rather greater than 30 points or so. The Solo does seem to do pretty well on handicap in many conditions, provided the sailor is good enough. Having owned both, I would bet on a Solo against a Topper on handicap with similar standard helms until the point where survival comes in. I might loose the bet occasionally, but not often. Edit - inland, that is - can't speak for relative performance on the sea. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 6:15pm
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Knowing which club desteve is a member of I can say the local Solo fleet whilst a great bunch of guys (and not as old as the normal Solo sailors) are definitely not up there with the top guys (with a couple of exceptions). So it is not surpising that a well sailed Topper will beat it.
------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |