PY numbers for Omega & RS Vision
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Topic: PY numbers for Omega & RS Vision
Posted By: Dago
Subject: PY numbers for Omega & RS Vision
Date Posted: 02 Apr 05 at 9:41am
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Hi, Can anyone help me with PY numbers for either the Topper Omega or RS Vision. We will have both boats racing this season, but I can't find any listings for either boats. Even the Manufacturer's haven't responded with any help!! Thanks in anticipation Peter Daigneault Sailing Sec. Eastbourne Sovereign SC
------------- Dago RS400 |
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Apr 05 at 5:25pm
| All you can do if you have no info, is to start by noting where the boats finish in races, and base the trial number on that (say they finish near the GP14's give them the GP handicap for 3 races till you see how fair it seems, then adjust to what you think seems fair. If one of the Vision sailors used to come near the back in a different class, and is now winning, it would suggest the handicap needs lowering, for instance. Lots of trial and error needed. Then at the end of the year, tell the RYA where you have got to in your returns, so they can give the boat a provisional number for other clubs to try out. Good luck! |
Posted By: Dago
Date Posted: 04 Apr 05 at 5:37pm
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Rupert,
Thanks for that, yes we would go along similar lines , but I was hoping others were already racing and have had some rating already tried. Currently we are using 1063 for the Vision, but no-one appears to be raing the Omega - I wonder why!
------------- Dago RS400 |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 04 Apr 05 at 7:57pm
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the omega handicap is 1075....with the spinnaker...don't know what it is without tho kasey |
Posted By: Dago
Date Posted: 04 Apr 05 at 8:10pm
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Thanks Kasey, What do you sail, is the boat influenced by tidal conditions? Peter
------------- Dago RS400 |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 05 Apr 05 at 7:17pm
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I sail at Lakeside SC, Peterborough......no tides as it's inland and quite a small lake. 1075 is the RYA PY number that my friend who sails the omega found...not sure where he got it tho. I sail a Kestrel, laser4000, buzz, solo and RS200.....haven't had a go in the omega yet. Kasey |
Posted By: Dago
Date Posted: 05 Apr 05 at 8:01pm
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Thanks again Kasey. I also heard from Topper today, who also confirm 1075. Looks like we now have numbers for both boats.
Regards,
Peter
------------- Dago RS400 |
Posted By: Adds
Date Posted: 06 Apr 05 at 10:40am
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i thought the provisional handicap for the vision is also 1075.
------------- Cheers Dudes |
Posted By: Dago
Date Posted: 06 Apr 05 at 5:45pm
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At present the only yardstick I have been able to obtain, is from another coastal club close to us who is operating on 1063. As yet I have had no feed back from LDC as to any provisional rating. However I would have thought it unlikely to be the same as the Vision is a much faster & lighter boat than the Omega. But I am still waiting to be told different! Thanks & regards, Peter
------------- Dago RS400 |
Posted By: andy_cherub
Date Posted: 07 Apr 05 at 12:17pm
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Sorry - but why do you want to race an omega? Ive sailed them - you roll tack em, they stall - you try and bear away in a gust - they carry on and fall over! Totally unresponsive and are tanks! no offence - but why not get a laser2, firefly etc? ------------- -12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites' -Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |
Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 07 Apr 05 at 4:41pm
| Sounds like the Omega boat is named after the Omega car! |
Posted By: brian_cooper
Date Posted: 25 Apr 05 at 6:17am
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We used 1034 for the RS Vision. At present we
have only had 1 race and only a laser and 1 of 3 Visions
finished . The Vision that finished was helmed by
the same standard of helm as the Laser with the addition of
2 junior crew. The wind was 2 dropping to
0. Sea state smooth. Neap tide. Course Triangle.
Location East Cowes SC. Laser elapsed 52m57 corrected 49m07 RS Vision elapsed 51m12 corrected 49.31 Kidlington Sailing Association sailed the RS Vision durring 2004 against many types of boats. Unfortunately I have no address for them but the results can be found at www.k-s-a.homecall.co.uk/race 191204.htm Brian Ass Sailing Sec ECSC. |