Best alternative to Radial
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Topic: Best alternative to Radial
Posted By: zailor
Subject: Best alternative to Radial
Date Posted: 13 Sep 09 at 5:51pm
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Hi
I'm after something for club racing on handicap mostly agains 3-4 Laser radials. I have looked at the Comet Xtra, Streaker, Lightning368, Supernova and the Byte CII, Europe. My bother has a CII which is great in light winds and beats then nice but, in a F5 radials kick CII backside Im 60KG so im a crap weight to begin with but im after a boat I can sail in the F5 and beond (well not to far beond) but still keep up with lasers. (beating them is also a good option or a good PY number Whats the best ting for beating a laser or do I have to get a laser with a radial and a 4.7 rig? at the age of 18 I cant have a 4.7 surley? |
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 09 at 6:02pm
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I suspect a forum wind guage here. From the list of boats above i would suspect the europe to be the only one close to a Laser in a big blow. Remeber always buy a boat that matchs your stetch of water and usual wind conditions! If you usually get a F5 (which i doubt) Then why bother buying a boat that is only competitive in these conditions!! ------------- |
Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 13 Sep 09 at 7:40pm
Well were fortunate to get a F3 minimum on average (if there is such a thing as average wind)
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 09 at 7:54pm
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Where do you sail then? Its hard to recommend a boat with out knowing where you sail. Do you sail in the UK? An average wind strength of F£ i would say is fairly strong for anywhere in this county. ------------- |
Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 13 Sep 09 at 8:00pm
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West coast of Wales. All year round |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 13 Sep 09 at 11:44pm
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i love my lightning 368, it is a lovely boat, nice to sail, with good quality controls and sail. it will beat the radial in winds up toF3 to F4. but in stronger winds the radial will win every time due to its longer waterline. i would not think any of the named boats could beat the radial in a F5 either,and any other boat that could, would need a helm of more than 60KG. sorry i could not be of more help. |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 14 Sep 09 at 11:57am
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The only boat I would suggest would be something like a Byte CII. As others have already stated though the Radial will beat them when the wind gets up. ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 14 Sep 09 at 12:00pm
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Constant F3 and above, and 60kg ... Topper maybe? Sail it well enough and thrash them on the handicap :p
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 14 Sep 09 at 4:05pm
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If sea sailing, the Europe is great. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 15 Sep 09 at 4:53pm
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I would go for the Byte CII. The Byte an be quite hard to sail in breeze if you have not set your rig up correctly but out in Canada I lined up with the Radials in a Byte on the windy days and was definitely higher and faster than the Youth sailors. ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 18 Sep 09 at 7:56am
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Byte or Europe. I posted a compare and contrast a while back. If your Bro has a CII and you get one.....thats the start of a fleet!! Just a thought ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 18 Sep 09 at 5:03pm
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Well theres a few topper sailors coming out of retirement. maybe theywould join us. Whats the apollo duck website again 
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Posted By: Bryce2001
Date Posted: 19 Sep 09 at 3:52pm
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To be honest at 60kg you won't go faster than radial in any of your choices -except the supernova however, I wonder if that would be a little overpowered for your weight. I had a Streaker (I was 5ft6 and 68kg) and was quite comfortable in a force 5/6. A Streaker should be good in the sea because they are light at the transom and bow and therefore shouldn't get stuck in the waves as much as a radial which is comparitively heavy at both ends. They are nippy and turn on a penny piece. There is enough room under the boom to move around and the semi battened sail will help your speed in lighter conditions. However, I did find it hard to significantly depower the rig and that is where a more flexible mast (Like a lightning) may come in to use. Some models you may find the mainsheet can get caught on the transom in a gybe - which can be interesting. Also, if you fancy developing into a national level sailor it seems only the newer boats are in the top 10 and of course, if you want to win you'll have to beat Steve Cockerill - good luck! |
Posted By: zailor
Date Posted: 04 Oct 09 at 8:38pm
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May as well tell you. I got me and old Europe for a laugh. Got a CII here so when its light winds my brother will have to considder it skanked
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