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Topic: Spinnaker
Posted By: neilboys
Subject: Spinnaker
Date Posted: 10 Mar 05 at 8:20pm
As an Enterprise/Laser sailor need some advice on Spinnakers....I am currently restoring A Cadet with my boys and have everything ready to go but am bit confused about attachment of the up/downhaul on the spinnaker pole. The pole we have has a single failrlead/eye (not a ramp) but I cannot figure out how the up/downhaul fit on/attach (hope this makes sense). Any help gratefully received



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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 10 Mar 05 at 8:26pm

er ok, the pole should have a ramp, there should be a rope tied in a loop, which goes to a loop on the mast and down to a cleat on the deck and the down haul to an eyelet then to elastic and a cleat.

If you want I probably can get a picture at the weekend.



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Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 10:00am
Or, you tie a hook into the uphaul/downhaul rope. This hook then goes into the eye on the spinnaker pole..


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 10:03am
Oh yeah i forgot that they used to have that system, the ramp is a lot easier i think.

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Posted By: Lucy Lee
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 11:30am
photos of the two spini systems might be helpful nathan & KnightMare!

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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 3:01pm
yeah ill try and remember to take a camera to club this weekend.

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Posted By: neilboys
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 5:06pm
Thanks for the replies.............any photos would be helpful


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 6:11pm

yeah what Cadet have you got? and where do you sail?

il look at getting thoses fotos this weekend for you.



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Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 7:06pm
There is a downloadable guide to rigging a Lark at www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk this also shows how the spinnaker is rigged with lots of photos.

If you have an eye on the pole you need a hook on the uphaul/downhaul try the Pinnal and Bax website and look at the spinnaker fittings.

Garry

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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 7:23pm

it might just be my computer but i cant get to the downloads

yeah the ring on the pole ahouls go into a hook on the up haul downhaul, but this is quite a complicated system as the ring isnt alwasy in the same place. Also i searched the pinbax site and couldnt find any hooks, they do sell the ramps though, you could convert i supose.



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Posted By: neilboys
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 8:52pm
Thanks again..............Lark website took ages to download so still trying


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 12 Mar 05 at 1:05am

Very often a deck eye screwed to the centre of the pole means the system with a key hole type ring is being used.  A wire keyhole has a fixed length uphaul attached to the top of it and a bungy downhaul attached to the bottom of it.  The deck eye is screwed to the pole in the middle and at right angles to the hooks at the end.  To use it pass the pole through the keyhole and attach the outer pole end to the sheet, the inner pole end to the eye on the mast.  The deck eye stops the key hole at half way along the pole and this braces it at the correct height.  When you want to gybe, release the sheet from the outer end, release the pole from the mast and twist the pole through 90 degrees.  The deck eye now slipes down the pole and when the pole is pushed out on the new side the uphaul and down haul brace it at the correct height.

Wow, a picture is worth a thousand words and this would certainly be the case here.  I'll see if I can find one.  But as a previous poster has said you may find a drawing on another site since this system is also used by many classes such as the 420, 470, Scorpion, Fireball, Wayfarer, Lark and others.  Personally I like the ramp method mentioned above which is very similar in that the uphaul and downhaul are restricted from sliding the length of the pole by something in the middle.



Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 12 Mar 05 at 10:19am
I hadn't thought of that system its been such a long time since I've ever seen anyone use it! This may not be 100% correct but should give you an idea.

Hope this helps

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Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 12 Mar 05 at 6:49pm
did you draw that yourself on paint?

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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 12 Mar 05 at 7:11pm

Lol yeah That would need a picture I think.

I got some pictures of the pole system on an old boat of mine, and that has a keyhole system but with a ramp on the pole.



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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 18 Mar 05 at 6:43pm

ok sorry these pictures arent very clear, I may resort to drawing a diagram like garry.

and the deck layout. 

 



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Posted By: neilboys
Date Posted: 18 Mar 05 at 8:57pm
KnightMare/Garry................the replies have been really useful. We should get it rigged and hopefully flying soon !


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 18 Mar 05 at 9:21pm

Cool glad to have helped, if there is anything else just 'yell'

What club do you sail at? and do you know the name/ no. of the cadet?



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