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Topic: Winter Sailing Gloves
Posted By: hjo186
Subject: Winter Sailing Gloves
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 8:36am

Not sure if this is the best part of the forum to put this on and I am sure that it has been discussed before but I couldn't find anything.

 

Was out dinghy sailing yesterday and I found that the only part of me that got cold was my fingers.


What would you recommend for winter dinghy sailing gloves?




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Posted By: dave.blakesley
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 9:09am
I wear a pair of the Gill winter neoprene ones, and they work perfectly. keep my hands nice and toasty, will probs only last one or 2 seasons though!

http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Neoprene_Winter_Gloves~p_7670~c5214.html - Link

I know alot of people will tend to use the orange builders gloves, there is a thermal version (as well as a version by gill (?) ) Will find a link when i get back from sailing!


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Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 9:22am
Don't buy the gill version, they are no better and about £5 more a pair!!

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Posted By: Gladys
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 9:43am

These are the best i've ever had, only had them 1 season but they still look like new!yhey are much better than the other gill gloves with only about £10 more.

http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Extreme_Winter_Gloves~p_7770~c5214.html - http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Extreme_Winter_Glo ves~p_7770~c5214.html

ps these kept me warm while sailing in that snowy weekend when it was about   -5!



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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 10:48am
i used to wear glass cutters gloves good grip and your fingers are covered but they did not seem to be everyones cup of tea.

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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 11:01am
Don't be afraid to consider layering gloves. A pair of Marigolds under a pair of full fingered gloves.

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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by Gladys

These are the best i've ever had,
only had them 1 season but they still look like new!yhey
are much better than the other gill gloves with only
about £10 more.


http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Extrem
e_Winter_Gloves~p_7770~c5214.html
- http://www.sailboats.c
o.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Extreme_Winter_Glo
ves~p_7770~c5214.html


ps these kept me warm while sailing in that snowy
weekend when it was about   -5!



These gloves were good when I was a topper squaddie
training all year round, keeping my tiny 14 year old
hands nice and toasty. They're a right bugger to put
back on if they're wet though! I need at least the thumb
and index finger open ended when I'm crewing.


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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 5:36pm
Gloves when its cold, um interesting one.

I had a pair of Blue Gill neoprene ones were ok but didn't keep your hands that warm.

Had a pair of the Rooster ones, wasn't impressed by those, the stitching dug into my fingers when holding rope/tiller and they didn't keep my hands that warm.

I wear the normal sailing gloves with the finger and thump cut, got the Gill ones and find that as long as I am constantly moving the fingers they are ok, you have to forget about the cold and concentrate on sailing. (mind over matter!)

(comes from he who hasn't sailed for a month or two)



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Posted By: Skiffman
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 10:38pm
no need for gloves.... I never wear gloves unless crewing then just use the showa thermo version. I find I can keep my hands quite warm without any gloves on most of the time and when they do get cold my crews hands are just as cold with thermo gloves on.

anyone else tryed sailing this time of year without gloves?? apprently some latex gloves under the builders gloves work well.


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Posted By: simsy
Date Posted: 01 Feb 09 at 11:57pm
I prefer sailing without gloves too. It sounds silly, but providing you don't actually get your hands wet (which is easier then it sounds) your hands don't suffer from the cold that much. As well as constant moving of your hands - aids in circulation and helps warmth.

Problem with wearing bog-standard gloves during the winter, is as soon as they get wet they just provide constant cold water next to your hands, making the problem worse.


Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 12:16am


Seriously?


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Posted By: simsy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 1:47am
Yes. What part of my theory are you questioning?


Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 8:00am
Keeping your hands dry being easy? What about spray, dunking to windward, putting the rudder in? 

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 8:24am
Just hang a towel on the boom, and each time your hands get wet, give them a quick dry...simple really, I don't know why I didn't think of it before.

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Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 9:13am
Originally posted by simsy

Problem with wearing bog-standard gloves
during the winter, is as soon as they get wet they just
provide constant cold water next to your hands, making
the problem worse.


That's certainly true, but surely the answer is to wear
proper winter gloves and not to freeze your extremities
off? I don't know where you sail, or what in, but the
notion that you can sail without getting your hands wet
seems a little fanciful! As someone who's of an age
where arthritis is beginning to be an issue sailing
without gloves at this time of year is madness. In fact
I wouldn't sail without gloves at any time of year,
partly because I need the extra grip. Of the 8 or so
pairs of sailing gloves I own the Gill Extremes are
easily the best for winter use, though as has been said
they are a nightmare to get back on if you take them off
when wet, if they could only sort that out they'd be
near perfect.

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 11:48am

How about keeping your hands dry with gloves that seal at the wrist, like these:

Gill Neoprene Winter Gloves

I know someone who has tried these from Magic Marine:

Magic Marine Dry Gloves

which Sailboats say are still 'drier' than the Gills, but my friend says his don't grip sheets etc. very well.



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Posted By: Inland sea
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 12:05pm

Very true the gip on the Magic Marine's is properly rubish, almost slipery to touch, so I wear the normal skiffy bulders gloves over the top.

I was wearing this combination yesterday and after an hour long race i was so warm I stayed out to blast around practicing my gybes



Posted By: charlie1019
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 1:12pm

Normally I find the thermal showa gloves fine, but this winter I must be getting old as my hands keep getting very cold and no matter how hard I try, I can't keep them dry.

Therefore I will be buying some winter gloves this week... anyone tried the Gill gloves shown above by Medway Maniac? Is the grip/feel any better than the Magic Marine ones as I couldn't grip the kite halyard and sheets properly with them??

 



Posted By: Adam MR 1137
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 2:10pm
I do not tend to get cold hands, so it is just summer gloves all year round for me. I tend to find if my core is warm (I mean properly warm) then my extremeties are nearly always fine while sailing.

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Posted By: Skiffybob
Date Posted: 02 Feb 09 at 2:19pm
I've got a pair of those Gill ones, and they're the muts when it's really cold.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 4:09pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Rupert

Just hang a towel on the boom, and each time your hands
get wet, give them a quick dry...simple really, I don't know why I didn't think
of it before.


surely I can pimp in something electric and warming from the bog roll
people?

Now, you see, going the electric route didn't occur to me - how about nicking a hand dryer from a service station and rigging it up on the foredeck?



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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 5:34pm
Maybe a patio heater instead then?

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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 5:45pm
Well I've just got a pair of the magic marine ones, we shall see how they fare... Is it me or are the fingers quite short? My own are quite long but...

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Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 6:05pm
i just bought a pair of surf gloves. they are 5mm i think so should be plenty warm enough with the wrist seal strap they have. will try putting a pair of builders gloves on top and see how that goes. but never really had problems with cold hands except when surfing. bargain at £16

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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 6:44pm
Wetsocks question: I know you're not supposed to wear socks under them as it messes up the insulating thing, but what about nylon tights/socks? (any ladies out there?) Helps warmth under a wetsuit, but will they stop the wetsocks working?

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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 7:09pm

Originally posted by HannahJ

Wetsocks question: I know you're not supposed to wear socks under them as it messes up the insulating thing, but what about nylon tights/socks? (any ladies out there?) Helps warmth under a wetsuit, but will they stop the wetsocks working?

OK I am not female, but, Rooster Wet socks and Rooster boots are toasty as toasty can get. I also find its near impossible for water to seep in, if it does its soon warmed up.



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Posted By: Fans1024
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 7:23pm
Chicken power hot socks are great.  Had them on Saturday with gill trap boots.  Wow, for the first time I could actually feel my feet during winter sailing, I would actually go as far as saying they were toastie.  'Cos they are really thin [less than a mm] I guess you could wear they with normal wet socks.  But wear the hot socks as the first layer as they are titanium or at least they have that silver lining stuff.


Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 8:17pm
Slightly different issue but I actually (and very
unusually) wore socks with my drysuit last weekend cos
it was proper cold. Mixed blessing to be honest as the
extra insulation was canceled out by my boots now being
a size too small and thus cutting off circulation to
feet. Hence, still bloody cold!

PS I am using Chrome to write this and it screws up the
text layout. Sorry about that.

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Posted By: charlie1019
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 10:35pm
Originally posted by Skiffybob

I've got a pair of those Gill ones, and they're the muts when it's really cold.
       Bob, do you find you can grip kite halyards and other small lines?


Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 7:55am
You can grip small lines but it dunno about bob but your fingers really start to get tired!! From straining to grip..

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Posted By: Fraggle
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 10:31am

I never wear gloves (laser radial sailor) and my hands stay warm enough when sailing.  If I'm hanging around inbetween races I'll stick em inside my buoyancy aid to keep them warm.

As for feet I wear the rooster hot socks inside my wetsocks.  My boots are a size bigger for winter to allow more layers and my feet have stayed nice and toastie since adding the hot socks.



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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 7:19pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Rupert

Maybe a patio heater instead then?


mast mounted is obviously ideal, so we'd have to ditch the mylar in favour of
some ceramic based cosmonaut-suit type sailcloth to stop it melting.... I
wonder rupert, would the change in sail material be a breach of class rules?
If so, then it's obviously a simple conclusion that sailing a SMOD means you
have cold hands, whereas as sailing a DEV class means your hands can stay
warm in winter..... another tick in the box for the DEV boys.

But just picture the epoxy in the mast melting...



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Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 10 Feb 09 at 3:46pm
Has anyone ever noticed how hot your hands get after being cold?  I was building a snowman with the girlfriend the other day (yes, I am still a kid....) and after ten minutes of snow related fun (without gloves on) my hands were boiling hot.  Basically, when they get cold your body increase blood flow to them, that's why the scouts always used to say if you want warm feet in your sleeping bag you should dunk your feet in the cold stream for a bit.

So my point is, I think it's best to just cowboy up and wear your normal gloves.  No point in sailing badly because you have stupid thick winter gloves on.  After 20 minutes of cold hands and a bit of work, your hands will warm up.  And if they don't, who cares, as we're sailors and are meant to be tough.

Right, back to my snowball fight.... :)


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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 11 Feb 09 at 2:55pm

For all of us who don't want to test RyanV9ers theory, I would recommend Rooster wetsocks in dinghy boots. Even afte 2 hours in the rescue boat on Boxing Day, my feet were still alive.

As for the other limbs, Rooster Aqua-Pro Winter gloves are a real disappointment. They're no any warmer than my short-finger summer gloves and they don't grip. Plus the stitching is falling apart. Not good.



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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 11 Feb 09 at 4:26pm

I'm with Ryan on this one, with the exception of last year's tiger trophy, use your normal gloves and work harder, you'll be warmer, and finish quicker, smiles all round .  Just tried the Zhik sticky ones, really really good, but short lifespan (holes after 5 days use, probably last another 10-15), good job they were free!



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Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 10:47am
I do, however, agree with having warm feet.  No matter how hard I work in the boat, my feet always freeze. Wearing wetsuit socks under your boots doesn't detract from your sailing, so there's no issue in wearing them.  As I said earlier, I disagree with wearing thick gloves that make sailing harder because your fingers are cold. :)

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Posted By: PeterV
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 12:21pm
I have sailed in bare feet whilst it's snowing!  In a dinghy the problem was that I slipped in the snow on the copckpit floor at the gybe mark and capsized.  In a cruiser it's just as said, the problem is that when you get into a sleeping bag your feet are too hot!

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Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 12:24pm

now that's hardcore :)

My problem with sailing bare foot is that I end up kicking things. Really hard.  Although I guess if I sailed barefoot more often I'd have to work on my foot work and would become more accurate and lighter-footed, from fear of jamming my little toe into the spinny halyard cleat...



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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 1:28pm

I did a couple of days sailing the B14 bare foot, because i forgot my boots, thankfully it was summer, but it did make me think about where i was putting my feet a lot more, i would recomend it as a training exercise for anyone in a quick boat.  just the once though. 



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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by Phil eltringham

I did a couple of days sailing the B14 bare foot, because i forgot my boots, thankfully it was summer, but it did make me think about where i was putting my feet a lot more, i would recomend it as a training exercise for anyone in a quick boat.  just the once though. 



Can't remember for sure but i think there was some 49er sailors barefoot at the olympics, i might be thinking fo something else though


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Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 5:09pm
Nathan Outteridge from Aus sails barefoot.  He was in the medal race.

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Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by MRJP BUZZ 585

Originally posted by Phil eltringham

I did a couple of days sailing the B14 bare foot, because i forgot my boots, thankfully it was summer, but it did make me think about where i was putting my feet a lot more, i would recomend it as a training exercise for anyone in a quick boat.  just the once though. 



Can't remember for sure but i think there was some 49er sailors barefoot at the olympics, i might be thinking fo something else though

I think it was the Australians, can just make them out in some of the photos

EDIT:

definitely the australians!



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Posted By: hjo186
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 5:55pm

Thanks All,

 

In response to my original message regarding gloves. I have just bought some Gill extreme gloves from Pinnal and Bax. (there on offer at the moment with free delivery).

 

Hopefully this will cure my cold hand problem.  Thankfully I don't really get cold feet.

 



Posted By: Jimbob
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 11:55pm
For cold feet.
3 layers: 1 normal thickish daily wear socks, 2 at least 3 mm thick neoprene socks (ensure they are not too tight), sailing boots with at least 3mm thick neoprene uppers. You'll need the boots a size bigger than normal.
And warm them all up before you put them on.


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