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Topic: Should I move on?
Posted By: ianwat2212
Subject: Should I move on?
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 3:36pm
My crew and I have bin sailing a 29er for a couple of years (not with any gr8 success) and have got slightly too heavy for it. I like the look of the RS800 but is it worth upgrading bearing in mind the the additional expense and the fact that I am 17 and will b goin away 2 Uni in a  year and a bit? or should we stick with the 29er and accept that were not going 2b as competetive in light airs?

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Fireball RSA 14723
Simonis 35 "Scarlet Sun" SA 1500
Royal Cape Yacht Club



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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 4:12pm
well it realy does depend on what you want, I had similar situation and an kinda floating at the moment as taking a gap year and coaching abroad for most (hopfuly) so wont be able to sail, and then going to uni so cant realy get into a boat intending to be competative.

Would you be moving into the 800 together? and are there any at your club to race against? etc


Posted By: C. Petrie
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 4:39pm

If your gonna be out of the country for most of the sailing season, getting a new boat now would just be a bit foolish IMO. alot of money to put down when you cant use it and also you will have to pay insurance (which i would imagine be more than the 29r) and storage fees...

I would prob tend to hold off until you return if i were you...

 



Posted By: Spot192
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:01pm
sounds a bit stupid, but if you both still have fun together in the 29er, why buying a new expensive boat?


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:11pm

Very good point. If you want to have a good time then stay in a boat and use the momeny u save on having a good time in the evenings!!! lol
But if all you are focused on is reults then change up.



Posted By: ianwat2212
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:15pm
The reason for upgrading would be to move into a boat that we are nearer to the right weight for, combined we weigh something around 145-150kg, well over the recommended 105-140 for the 29er, this means we struggle a bit in light airs, but maybe the struggle of getting to grips with a new boat with only 1 or at most 2 seasons to sail it would outweigh the advantage of a bigger boat?

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Fireball RSA 14723
Simonis 35 "Scarlet Sun" SA 1500
Royal Cape Yacht Club


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:27pm
Yeah your not that much to heavy for the boat then, just hope for kick a** strong winds and not only will u have a blast, ul do better as u know the boat well, about how it handles and what it/you can and cant do.


Posted By: Spot192
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:35pm
itīs more challenging sailing a boat if youīre too light (in my case) or too heavy. and the point of knight mare spending the money for the evenings is an essential one!


Posted By: ianwat2212
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:35pm

That sounds like good advice, my view has been somewhat coloured by the fact that there was about 2 knots of wind at last yrs inlands and we came a rather embarresing 2nd to last!



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Fireball RSA 14723
Simonis 35 "Scarlet Sun" SA 1500
Royal Cape Yacht Club


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:37pm

Ah yeah, I can see your point but how often does that realy happen. Also no offence but where were you expecting to come.

PS someone always has to have that spot.



Posted By: ianwat2212
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:40pm

We wernt expecting much more than mid fleet but 2nd to last was a little embaressing, still, its better to be able to have fun when it blows than to have to stay ashore. and light winds are always fairly dull, however quick you are.

 



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Fireball RSA 14723
Simonis 35 "Scarlet Sun" SA 1500
Royal Cape Yacht Club


Posted By: Spot192
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:40pm
thatīs a good key word! how are the winds in your areas?


Posted By: ianwat2212
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:43pm
I sail at lee on solent, the wind varies but if theres any sun we usually get a fairly steady sea breeze from the south, depending on the gradient wind of course.

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Fireball RSA 14723
Simonis 35 "Scarlet Sun" SA 1500
Royal Cape Yacht Club


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:47pm

so being hevier sounds better than lighter weight.

also if you can learn to keep you boat going in light winds then that will improve you sailing ability in all areas. And then when you finaly have to move you will be better placed to start high up rankings.



Posted By: Spot192
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:53pm
sounds really like your weight is good for  these conditions. sailed a 29 myself and itīs better to be in it a bit longer to be in it too short. you can learn much from him!


Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 2:36pm

If you've got a 29er just now, why not upgrade her to the 29erX which would be a bit cheaper than an RS800 and you always have the option of the smaller rig to have fun when it's really windy. Alternatively, look into getting a sports scholarship from your uni and pick up an okay 49er but it probably depends on which uni you plan to go to and what course you want to do.......

Have a look at the Bethwhaite and Ovington websites if your interested in the 29erX, looks like the next big thing



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Helensburgh S.C
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 4:36pm
havent seen the 29er x any links/photos/info?

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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 5:20pm

that is the boat but look on http://www.bethwaite.com - www.bethwaite.com for more info!!



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Posted By: GBR176671
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 10:03pm
looks cool


( I want one)

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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 10:35pm

ben did i hear that right you want a boat that is not a laser or finn you have spent all day telling me that all you want to sail is finn laser 420 and 505

you are going the enter my club and get a 29er and when it comes out a 29erx you have grown up at last



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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 12:30pm
that looks good wish i hadnt sold my 29er nw

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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 10:18pm
don't wory dave hall sed they are not going to sell it anyway it is just for fun

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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 01 Apr 05 at 1:45pm

5420  did you buy your 29 er out of dinghy magazine?



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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 02 Apr 05 at 7:51pm
Lol u rele did have fun with that mag didnt you.

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