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Topic: Protest......
Posted By: jeffers
Subject: Protest......
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 1:11pm


Wouldn't like to be the guy on the outside....having said that the guy on the inside looks like he has either luffed or not long tacked!


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Paul
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 5:05pm
Looks like there is plenty of room for that inside guy to round the mark

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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 5:07pm
But will he be able to round in a seaman like manor? Is that the rule? 

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 5:17pm
'Seamanlike manor' pretty much means getting around the mark without hitting anything. It doesnt allow for a 'wide entry close exit' rounding or any hanging around in the vicinity of the mark making a nussance of yourself...


Posted By: Gladys
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 5:33pm

They must be profesionals, not one of them is yelling at another!



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You're a good sailor when you can get back!


Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 5:43pm
I had an incident like that at a Nationals once (I was the boat stuck in irons next to the mark). Although I had no rights to room, the boats on the outside cant just continue as if you arn't there and crash into you as the rules clearly state that you must avoid collisions. The boat outside should sail around the muppet in irons, and then protest him. If damage was caused to the guy in irons he is entitled to protest the guy who hit him, and seek re-dress if he then misses races due to being half sunk and carrying out repairs.


Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 5:46pm

Originally posted by tgruitt

But will he be able to round in a seaman like manor? Is that the rule? 

Is that some kind of posh house boat then??

 



Posted By: Jamesd
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 6:02pm

Originally posted by tgruitt

But will he be able to round in a seaman like manor? Is that the rule? 

no the latest rules allow you to more room so that you can take a a racing line, i.e. outside in.

you could probably claim that he is tacking in your water though. certainly with that pic as evidence



Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 6:21pm
errr, im still not quite sure about that james, I think the new rule allows you to take a racing line at the bottom mark (at a gate?) but not at the top. Can anyone clarify?

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by rogerd

Originally posted by tgruitt

But will he be able to round in a seaman like manor? Is that the rule? 

Is that some kind of posh house boat then??

 

I was just trying to think up a witty reply to the idea of a seamanlike manor - maybe where Captain Haddock lives, or the like, but you got there first...



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Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 9:10pm
Originally posted by Gladys

They must be profesionals, not one of them is yelling at another!

It`s more likely that the boats are NOT theirs so no worries!.



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Posted By: Jamesd
Date Posted: 31 Jan 09 at 1:06pm

Originally posted by mike ellis

errr, im still not quite sure about that james, I think the new rule allows you to take a racing line at the bottom mark (at a gate?) but not at the top. Can anyone clarify?

I believe it is the case. not just at a gate. but i did get muddled up as of course the racing line is tight into a windward mark. my bad.



Posted By: Strangler
Date Posted: 08 Feb 09 at 12:22pm
OK sort this one out!

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Posted By: Strangler
Date Posted: 08 Feb 09 at 12:25pm
Again-

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 08 Feb 09 at 1:00pm
Was 193043 clear ahead when it capsized or not? And how far? It makes a lot of difference...


Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 08 Feb 09 at 1:38pm
Ouch! Now that looks a mess!

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Paul
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