growing into a boat
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Topic: growing into a boat
Posted By: carshalton fc
Subject: growing into a boat
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 8:37pm
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me and my brother were considering buying a boat but cant decide what boat to get, i dont wont to buy a boat and in a couple of years change classes. i am 16 and weigh about 11 stone, my brother is 12 and is 8 stone. what would you lot recomend. ------------- International 14 1503 |
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 8:47pm
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Rs 200, ideal weight 20+ stone, good racing circuit, not too demasnding, but still fast. Or you could try syms, loads of choice there: scorp, fireball etc. ------------- |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 8:53pm
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na i dont want an a syms. defiatly an assametric maybe a trapeze or two. definatly not a plastic boat!!!!!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 9:10pm
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29er????? Iso???? Buzz???? Spice??? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 9:19pm
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29er= great boat was going to look at that at the boat show. iso=no bit to boring buzz=not sure look at it at the boat show. spice= no cos it has no class racing. what do you lot think about an rs 800. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 10:12pm
| RS800 - loverly boat but not your first asymmetric - you'd get blown off the water and its not cheap either. A 4000 might be the answer, you're a bit light, so it depends where you sail, they are cheap to buy but new sails cost a bomb - no on second thoughts you might not have enough weight to right it, and you'll be doing plenty of that. What about a Buz? |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 10:15pm
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i sail at bough beech and there are about five 4000 so that would be a good bet a buzz wont be any good cos i will be the only one there. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 10:32pm
| I sail at Bough Beech too. You've just earn't a sail in my 4000. Catch me by 4398! |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 11:25pm
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If it comes down to a choice between the 4000 and the 29er I would have to say the 29er. The loads are lighter and there is the youth circuit there if you want. To be honest though a 200 may suit the two of you better. The problem is the gap in your ages, it means if one of you wants to do the youth thing you will have to split in a couple of years when you hit 18. I'm on the B14 stand at the dinghy show all weekend, come and say hi. ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 7:37pm
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so what would you say about the b14 that looks like a well cool hiking skiff!!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 8:27pm
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You haven't said anything about your joint sailing ability, how much learning you're prepared to do, what sails at your club or budget.
I would suggest you also look at the 405 (now defunctI would guess but you might get a second hand one cheap) and might not meet your requirements or a Cherub... ------------- Garry Lark 2252, Contender 298 www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk |
Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 8:46pm
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yes you dont want to buy a boat that you dont know how to properly sail!! i made that mistake once and ended up sinking it- lol ------------- byte me!- GBR 814 |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 04 Mar 05 at 4:18pm
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well me and my brother work quite well togther, he has his rya junior leval 3 and i am a instructor. i was thinking about spending 5000 pounds on a boat! the cherub sounds good but i would strugle with some of the work that you have to do on a cherub to make it competative. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: ftms
Date Posted: 04 Mar 05 at 10:32pm
| You sound like you are at the same stage as my brother and I, a few years back. We grew out of the Mirror, so got the RS200. We were slightly lighter that you at 15 stone, so struggled for a couple of seasons. As it is a boat to grow into, don't dishearten. Stick with it or get your brother he eat loads of pies. |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 04 Mar 05 at 11:32pm
| Hey now that a boat I can endorse. Amasing boat, not too much not too little. Even I can handle its kite, just dont keep the jib on too much. |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 06 Mar 05 at 9:56pm
looking at the cherub stand i think i might get one of them! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 06 Mar 05 at 10:46pm
| Lol waht skiff for ur next boat interesting.... |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 11:36am
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knightmare what did you mean? ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 10 Mar 05 at 3:39pm
lol was trying to find the definition of a skiff at show and the guy said that the cherubs have now become skiffs. also they didnt actualy know what the definition of a skiff was.  ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 12:40pm
well i dont actually know what a skiff is does anyone know the deffinition? cos i know the 29 er 49 er and rs 800 are all skiffs but dont actually know what it means realy! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 2:43pm
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K from last time i was looking this up. Julian said this on 49er forum: My definition of a skiff is a boat that un-sticks! ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 3:15pm
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Julian's definition of a "skiff" would exclude many of the traditional working boats in Aus that actually originated the term. There really doesn't seem to be a satisfactory definition of "skiff", although in general we could mostly agree whether a boat is or is not a skiff. It has become a marketing term. |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 3:49pm
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Yeah the original def of skiff was just an open boat, one with no decks and or tanks i think. there was something on the 49er thread about that but i thought this was the most relivent post. No one actualy knows the real definition of skiff I asked on the Musto Skiff stand at show and only one out of three had anyidea and he directed me to 49er forum this is from knightmare!!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 5:05pm
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Hey thanxs, horrible anti spamming thing wouldnt let me post it. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 12 Mar 05 at 9:33pm
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why does the forum need a spamming thing anyway? ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 13 Mar 05 at 7:26pm
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To stop hackers etc. spamming and making site crash. ------------- |
Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 13 Mar 05 at 7:36pm
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i'm not supprised u got the spamming notice, recently Knightmare, Carshalton fc, spot, have gone crazy with there posts, not getting at ya, keep it up gives me something to do, reading thru the posts, ------------- Jon Vortex 1169 http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 13 Mar 05 at 8:30pm
yer if you just take your time you dont get the spaming thing come up!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 14 Mar 05 at 9:36am
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If you take your time it still comes up eventually but it takes a lot longer which is good ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 14 Mar 05 at 10:14am
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Just imagine a second what it would be like if there wasn't the Anti-spamming thingy! KnightMare wouldn't even eat all day! Just kidding, Pippa, hope you're better - take care ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 14 Mar 05 at 8:23pm
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yer i think most people would have 500 if that were the case!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 14 Mar 05 at 9:45pm
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wot if i didnt eat? Oh n thnx BNS ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: fergus h
Date Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 8:56pm
GET A 29er!!!!!!!!!!!!! great boat, i want one but can't find a crew!
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 9:19pm
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where you sail then, looks like a few people are having the I need a crew syndrome. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 9:25pm
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Hmm quite a good place to join if you have no boat isnt it! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: fergus h
Date Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 9:45pm
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i sail at kielder water sailing club in the north east. i dabble in iso sailing every now and again but my crew is leaving to uni so having him as 29er crew would be quite difficult. at the moment i sail a radial but i really do want to change. kielder is actually having an asymetric open meeting on the 30th april 1/2nd of may if any one wants to come. |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 11:32am
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the 29er is a nice boat but i have made up my mind and i am going to get an rs 800!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Lucy Lee
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 1:32pm
We are coming. There should be at least four Cherubs so come over & say hi. ------------- Fly Cherub! |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 2:00pm
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Are you going to Southsheilds the week after, because it looks like its going to be a big one. We're running a Scottish Skiff Racing event there, lots of 49ers look ready to turn out plus all the skiffs from the Northern area, on top of the original Southsheilds attendance. We're hoping to get down if I can get the time off work. ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |