If i Bought a B rig RS300 and i wanted the A sail size do i need a new mast/boom to take it?

you need an A rig mast section only mate.  Put a note on the 300 message board and swap the b rig mast and sail for an a rig, there is bound to be someone that will swap.  How heavy are you??

300 is a great boat, you won't be disported!  Which 300 did you buy? sail no??

feva sailer are you aware that you can reef the b rig as it does have reefing points on the main i dont know of anyone who has done it so i cant say how good it is.i did see an a rig 300 for sale the other day i think it was on apollo duck i think.

as merlinboy say its a great boat to sail so much fun...

Not got one as of yet still shopping around for one.

Its for when I cant be on the 29er and the feva is being sailed by my brother and his buddies.

Its also for my brother to grow into when i move on to the world of work and so on.

I'm 60KG so i know I'm on the light side but I'm quite athletic  so i like hiking.

I know the B rig does reef but Id prefer an full A rig to having a permanently reefed B rig.

If i bought a 2nd hand B rig boat id probably use it for the drifting days but A rig for when there's a breeze on.

I would have liked a 600 but restricted water's mean the 300 is the fastest boat I could get away with.

Anyway thanks for the help and will start pricing up.

So far i found you only save between £1000-£2000 by the time you get it ready for sailing.

Makes you wonder if its worth spending that much extra for the new boat because this will be raced by me and then by my brother when he's big enough.

But that will depend on funding and money isn't exactly plentiful at the moment.

I would surgest to you that you buy an A rig 300 because they are cheaper in the first instance,However they seem to be thin on the ground,These two are B rigs & are on appollduck & none on the 300.org site

http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=94712 - http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=94 712  :- this may be for sale but he said that he may keep it.

http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=94709 - http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=94 709  :- this one`s in guersery so if you go for this one be serious about it!

http://www.rs-association.com/index.asp?fleet=RS300&selection=For%20Sale - http://www.rs-association.com/index.asp?fleet=RS300&sele ction=For%20Sale   & this 1 on the RS site rig size unknown.

Good luck & happy sailing

Yes you would Defiantly need a A rig if you intended to race on the curcuit because you have to be 75Kg? or above to race with a B.

( I stand corrected )

right, the Arig is a flatter cut but not much smaller in actual area. the mast is about a foot shorter though. to be honest there is nothing wrong with getting a B rig at 65kg. ian smith is somewhere around that weight and will still beat me no problem. the rules about weight and different rigs has been scrapped. to be honest i was 65kg when i got the boat and struggled to begin with. then i got used to how it should be handled and could sail it in more breeze. i have put about 5kg on over the last 6months and with the extra experience (most important thing in this boat) can sail it much better than i could a year ago.

the top link posted is actually my boat advertised. not expecting anything like that amount for it in the current financial situation so if your interested make me an offer.

tbh if you were to get a B rig and then decide a few months down the line that it was too much i know of a few people out there who are hoping to trade up. best bet is just to get a boat first (not easy to come by)

any more questions then feel free to pm me at any time

So if I were sailing a B rig at 60KG I'd probably be overpowered but how good a job does the Cunningham do at dowering the rig and is the A rig that much less powerful.

Brigs are thin on the secondhand market and A rig set ups are proving to be very hard to come across, so far i have found 2 but one has been sold and aren't holding much hope for the other due to it being on the market a while.

Excuse the double post but i found that rooster makes replica sails both B and A rig.

I was thinking would it be worth buying a B rig boat and then getting an A rig mast and replica sail or am I then just better off getting new anyway.

I doubt I would be joining in any RS300 events to the replica doesn't matter, I'd only be into informal handicap racing at the local clubs but If i were to try out the RS300 circuit then Id probably get a new sail but by then the A rig rooster replica will probably be in need of replacing.

I'm just asking as all i can find is B rig boats and If i were to try the B rig as i said in a past post at lest i have a replica A rig if it doesn't work out till I'm ready for B rig.

You probably think I'm the most indecisive member here but at lest I have a target boat now

Welcome the world of real hiking fun feva sailor  here's hoping we can help you find a boat.

The A rig as Tom says is indeed a shorter mast. However there is a stump option on one of the boats at our club and the mast bend is the same.

This gives you the option to change from A to B easily.

Regarding your question on the cunningham this contol is no where near as important on the 300 as the kicker. With the kicker full on you can turn a deep powerful B rig sail into a complete blade ... flat as a a pancake  but yes the A rig is smaller and flatter therefore less powerful and at your weight would be the best choice. If you are factoring in a new sail though you really do have the option to do whatever you want. I will try and get a drawing / pictures of the Stump for all to see.

Good luck with your hunt as finding a good one seems to be getting more and more difficult each year.

Feva sailor,

LDC have just reduced to price of their 300 sails to a price which is only slightly more than the Rooster sail so you are not really saving anything.

The kicker is very efficient at its job and so is the cunningham. Outhaul only really works well once you have a block attached to the sail.

They are pretty simple boats to set up and the only really "must have's" on the boat are a continuouse kicker and getting rid of the jammer on the main sheet. Other than that any boat will be racing pedigree. Even if you decide to re-rig the control lines they are not that long and it would not be expensive.

The best advice for a newcomer the boat is stick with it.

Contra to popular belief there are not that many A rigs around so buying one will be harder as well as selling one too. With the mast costing around £800 and the sail £460 it can be an expensive switch between the two. Also very few people run both rigs so there are very few spare rigs around for people to sell/swap. In fact, if you wish to swap rigs the easiest way of doing it is to sell the boat complete and buy another one.

There is an article in the December issue of RS News about a light weight girl sailing a B rig in Scotland. She found it manageable and found that technique will outstrip weight and brawn advantages in the boat. If you PM me your email address I will send you a scanned copy if you do not already have one.

If you do get a B rig then I am sure that once over the learning curve you will be building up in wind strength each time you go out.

Which ever you get you will have a great time and savour the learning learning curve. It is so rewarding.

Rich

PM sent thanks

Well I have much to ponder over, thanks all

pm didnt get here, im away until friday/ saturday but after that will try my best to answer any questions you may have.

where are you based? im sure we could set you up with a test sail.....

Sorry the PM was sent to someone that had an article on a light weight sailor in a B rig boat so am now looking more twards getting a b rig and a big slice of cake to go with it

I'm not too far from you, im only in west wales, cardigan area.

I still have a few things to think about but I will keep the offer in mind.

Just a quick thanks for the artice Richard sent me and that you tmoore for the offer.

and thanks all again