Zoom8
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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: Zoom8
Posted By: sailor.jon
Subject: Zoom8
Date Posted: 26 Feb 05 at 11:28pm
has anyone had a look at the "Zoom8" its a 8 1/2ft (2.65mts) unsinkable single sail dinghy thats designed to b the "olmpic stepping stine between the optimist and the laser",
ive just stubled across it on tridents website, ive looked at a few pic n the bpat seems alright if not a little small, tho it has the took of something larger an "OK" maybe? or somwthing along those lines, looking from the back has a simlar shape to a solo? (IMG_6784.JPG)
have a look at some pictures http://www.trident-uk.com/Class_Catalogues/zoom8/zoom8.htm - http://www.trident-uk.com/Class_Catalogues/zoom8/zoom8.htm
i don't like the kicker seems as tho it cud a little inaffective for pulling on, tho i suppose looking at the size of it, a youngster wouldn't b able to pull much on anyway,
do u think this could b the boat to take over from the topper??? i don't think so,
------------- Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club
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Posted By: Win or Swim
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 12:12pm
Hmm interesting.
I dont think it stands a chance against the 4.7, when youngsters who are keen for developing in singlehanded racing i always reccomend the 4.7, beacuse although possibly more expensive @ the time, upgrading is cheaper, just mast and sail, and it introduces them to the wonderfully compettive laser fleets!
So personally i think its yet another no go boat, that people who do shell out for it will be dissapointed.
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 4:13pm
4.7 have a tiny fleet compared to topper, and no rya training.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 6:58pm
The Zoom8 is huge in Northern Europe, but will probebly never cross the North Sea in great numbers because of Toppers and 4.7's, though I don't think the 8 1/2 foot long Zoom8 can really be called a rival to a huge boat with a tiny rig like the Laser 4.7. For a start, kids can probebly pull the Zoom8 up the slip without the aid of daddy. The Topper, however, is so strong over here that the Zoom8 is probebly redundent as a junior class.
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Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:09pm
omg that's one ugly boat. it just looks like a mini splash but even worse!! yuk yuk yuk...i dont like it.
------------- Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!
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Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:18pm
hey sailor girl i agree its just another wannabe, nothing will ever take over the topper!
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Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 7:24pm
awww, my 2nd oppi was called wizkid!!!!!!
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 8:52pm
it looks like a lot of girls sail the class i might have to get one hehe!!
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Posted By: Win or Swim
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 9:24pm
probably because blokes can get a real boat 'with a tiny' rig and right it without the aid of 'daddy'
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Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 9:33pm
God it sounds like Topper are planning world domination the way people speak about it lol !
------------- -[Franko]-
Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club
RS600 933
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 27 Feb 05 at 9:57pm
the're pretty close... only the oppy stands in the way....
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 10:02am
they sail e'm in UK, Ireland, Dubai, Japan, France and Germany
They are an ISAF class, but not sailed absolutely everywhere.
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 10:12am
Originally posted by Chris 249
Ahh, no they aren't; Toppers are almost entirely a UK class aren't they?
I know their claims of the numbers outside the UK are suspect, I used to sail at the only Topper club in Australia and it was a rare occasion when they had three out.
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How come this was posted in October 2005?
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Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 11:25am
To be fair most classes have small entries at the UK Nationals compared to the Topper (the notable exception being the Optimist). However the Laser 4.7 had a good turn out last year (over 50 at the Nationals) and an improving circuit. Nationals turn out in 2005 may be slightly down due to the Nationals being in School time and clashing with Europeans but do not let this 'blip' worry you!
In terms of being a truely international class the Laser 4.7 wins hands down, just compare the number of sailors from different countries at the World and European championships. As for training things are in the pipe line and should be much improved for the 2005/2006 winter training. The 4.7 of course makes the perfect stepping stone to Olympic single handed classes (Radial for girls, Standard for Boys).
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Posted By: headfry
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 11:47am
bit off subject but....
Any of you topper sailors on the course being held at Oxford sailing club?? 
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 11:49am
Chris 249
That's a man ahead of his time! Look at the date of his last posting!! So tell me, how was the summer 2005? Hot and sunny? What about the various sporting events? No don't give the results here, send me a PM so I can go down to the bookies later!
Thnx

------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: headfry
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 12:56pm
Glad it's not just me having problems with dates and times displayed on the forum Whats going on 
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Posted By: headfry
Date Posted: 28 Feb 05 at 1:29pm
Not trying to be unkind to the Zoom8 but it kinda almost reads as Zombie ( the 8 being a B) 
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 11:36pm
8' skiff anyone???
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Posted By: Skiffman
Date Posted: 06 Mar 05 at 10:34am
I've seen those Zoom8's out in Denmark, they look very good boats. They are alot better than Laser 4.7's which are silly boats. The Laser 4.7 has far to small a sail for the size of the boat. The boat wasn't designed to work well with a 4.7metre main, it was designed for the Full Rig.
The Zoom8 is almost as light as an an oppy 40kg all up and a 4.8mertre main is a far better design. I have seen them sailing and they looked like a perfect stepping stone from an oppy to laser, or just miss out the oppy all together. The design is a bit similar to the europe only smaller.
I would sail one if I wanted to sail lasers and I had just started sailing.
------------- 49er GBR5
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Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 06 Mar 05 at 8:16pm
topper are trying raise an army of little sailor kids to demolish the other boat builder companies! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 1:59pm
the zoom 8 looks like the the most boring boat in the world
   
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:32pm
Originally posted by 5420
the zoom 8 looks like the the most boring boat in the world
   
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substitute zoom 8 for pico and then you have a correct statement! !
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:49pm
Originally posted by Harry44981!
Originally posted by 5420
the zoom 8 looks like the the most boring boat in the world
   
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substitute zoom 8 for pico and then you have a correct statement! !
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they are bother boring boats
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Posted By: arhy
Date Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 10:29pm
Hello!
In Scandinavia Zoom8 is popular and when you are discussing if this is something that you would consider I would say that we are used to se tall Scandinavian children reaching 12 years and do not find it nice to sit in a small Optimist anymore. We normally start optimist-training courses when children are 7-8 years old, we se that only 1 ore 2 of the starting 30 are still with us when they reach 13. The Laser is not a cheap boat and is normally not a boat for 12 years old children. We see that the zoom8 is able to get our optimist-sailors continuing sailing and that this boat is faster and much more fun to sail than the optimist dingy.
The zoom8 is not a boat for the Olympic, but a boat making it exiting to sail until you are able to get in to bigger boats such as Laser, Europa-dingy, 470 ore 29’er.
For some children zoom8 is suitable from they are 12-15, but for those who are small build they are able to continue using this boat to they are 17-18-19 years old.
We really like this dingy, I hope you do not compare this with something that whose purpose is to be used for older children. Regards Arnfinn Hystad Norway
Pictures of the Zoom8 -à http://groups.msn.com/seiling/shoebox.msnw
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 23 Mar 05 at 12:48am
Just read the Zoom8 article and I have to say it looks like fun for the younger kids. Remembering my youth from 12 - 13 onwards the optimist does lose its charm, but you aren't heavy enough to sail anything else - apart from a Topper which I personally don't like although there are plenty of people who do.
Zoom8 would look much better with the rudder on a gantry out the back of the boat though - would give you more space internally....
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Posted By: pro wannabe
Date Posted: 24 Mar 05 at 8:33pm
5420 sed that there are other boring boats! YEA like gp14 bosun gull .....
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Posted By: Chris 249
Date Posted: 22 Oct 05 at 1:16am
Ahh, no they aren't; Toppers are almost entirely a UK class aren't they?
I know their claims of the numbers outside the UK are suspect, I used
to sail at the only Topper club in Australia and it was a rare occasion
when they had three out.
EDIT:
Sorry, I don't know what's happening with this post and why it's always
popping up at the end with a strange date......perhaps it's coming from
another place in the space/time continuum. I'm certainly having forum
problems. Heeeeelp!
PS yep Blacknosugar, summer 2005 is still fairly hot and humid.....then again that's usual down here!
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