Those Dreaded Days
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Topic: Those Dreaded Days
Posted By: Win or Swim
Subject: Those Dreaded Days
Date Posted: 25 Feb 05 at 4:52pm
Hi anybody who has ever tried there and at instructing (or just sailing maybe) knows that feeling when its just too manic or there just isn't enough wind to send the kids out.
Just wandering if anybody has any ideas for shorebased games that are fun and might help sailing skills/knowledge. Usually watch skiff vids or do quizes, but i think all the kids (and instructors) are gettin fed up with that.
Any ideas, before i result to making them tcut my laser hull?
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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 25 Feb 05 at 5:04pm
Paddling races in oppies whenthere is no wind if it is warm and sunny!!
A good one I have for getting roudy kids to be quiet works like this:
Get them to sit in a circle, what they have to do is between them count to 21 (or 10 if they are little or just plane thick). The thing is they must have their eyes shut and not say anything other than a number. If two people speak at once then the group has to start again, will keep most kiads amuused for a good 20 min or so.
P.S. This also works great as a drinking game, you dont have to have your eyes shut (its only to stop the kids pointing at eachother), if people do call a number at the same time they must drink. If you get to 21 then the person who says 21 changes one of the numbers for a different word for subsequent rounds. (for extra fun make people stand up to say a number)
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 25 Feb 05 at 5:09pm
Our graphics class di=d that withour eyes open the other day and couldn't get past 4! and we're all 14-15!
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Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 25 Feb 05 at 6:25pm
Knot tying, boat rigging, rules, flags, starting, windshifts, boat trim, explain team racing, explain match racing, talk about fitness, diet, resusitation, classes of boat and wear them out with running - so do time trials, relays, elimination series and then you can have rigging and de-rigging races and there's always football.
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Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 26 Feb 05 at 4:13pm
im afraid with those sailing tings too past the time the best thing is to play a gme non sailing related like hmmm simon says with sailig words. that asses another 15 minutes alternatlvley u can send them swimming in the sea/lake if your feeling mean
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 01 Mar 05 at 10:16am
Or you could set them a challenge,
Like most effective paper aeroplane!
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 01 Mar 05 at 4:45pm
or building model yachts....?
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Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 01 Mar 05 at 8:49pm
Take them for white knuckle ride with the asymmetric in a RS400 ina F5 like they did at rockley to us !
Or in the 160hp rib........we got that aswell ! very very good
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Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club
RS600 933
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 5:21am
Originally posted by Wave Rider
Take them for white knuckle ride with the asymmetric in a RS400 ina F5 like they did at rockley to us !
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On a day with no wind - that would work really well...
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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 10:19am
borrow the fans from the indoor pool at the boat show
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Posted By: ghotio
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 10:35am
Here's a link thats on the RYA\Training\Instructors\Downloads page.
http://www.rya.org.uk/images/uploaded/f8fefe64-90e7-4025-a9c9-353746c94518/Childrens_Games.pdf - http://www.rya.org.uk/images/uploaded/f8fefe64-90e7-4025-a9c 9-353746c94518/Childrens_Games.pdf
A couple of these have proved very useful.
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 2:43pm
some of those are very good
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Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 3:28pm
yes they are i just had a read myself some sound very useful
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Posted By: ghotio
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 3:37pm
Sod's law always rears its ugly head when ever I try and run our training sessions. So we end up with too much or too little wind all the time. My favorite game that the kids also love is the Vertical Races. Word of warning don't try it when the tides out!
------------- B14 - GBR 725
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Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 5:41pm
Oh yeah,
I forgot about the no wind part...............you could still do high speed rib rides tho !
------------- -[Franko]-
Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club
RS600 933
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Posted By: radial179102
Date Posted: 28 Mar 05 at 11:02pm
whenever racing is cancelled (light winds) @ our club we take out a few club toppers and just mess about by capsising, tieing them together 2 make catamarans, have paddling races, throw coaches in the water....
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 9:39am
isont there a game called pirots you can play where you have two in a boat one gets out a capzise some elis boat and then get bach in his own
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 9:53am
dont know but when there isnt much wind but it is still quite warm we do capsizing parctice. kids love it and it is also good practice so that they know what to do if they ever are in that situation.
(wow that website is blocked on my school server )
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Posted By: radial179102
Date Posted: 02 Apr 05 at 6:54pm
pirates is amazing, the trick is 2 hav a small crew in a topper with flippers and a snorkel! they dive underneath the water, grab hold of the enemy daggerboard and flip it! sooo funny! exept when it happens to you.... 
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Villan is my Bitch ;)
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Posted By: sam_woolner
Date Posted: 06 Apr 05 at 2:56pm
Try the number game, i always find this a good laugh when the wind dies and i am coaching:
one in each boat
number actions 1-4 i.e 1) capsize, 2) run round the mast, 3) change boats, 4) attempt climbing the mast. you can vary the number of activities and what they are.
always a great sucess
------------- Starcross Yacht Club
Devon
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 15 Apr 05 at 11:34am
you could see if it is posable to nose dive a topper
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 15 Apr 05 at 2:22pm
Thanks everyone! We're trying to put together Fun Days in LSC and you've given us a lot of ideas! I can't wait to start playing Pirates, ehhehh! (eerr, btw, it's not gonna be easy to capsize contender443, is it? )
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 8:36pm
i tried to pitch pole a pico the other day but failed i got close a few times but then it just popped up out of the waves agen 
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 8:58pm
lol, well most boats can b pitch poled, just amazing winds when u have to rescue one from a tree half way thru sailing it. 
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Posted By: ioanlavery
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by stuarthop
i tried to pitch pole a pico the other day but failed i got close a few times but then it just popped up out of the waves agen  |
I was tasked to capsize a Pico once upon a time during a photo shoot for a sailing book. The idea was to show the capsize drill through a series of photos. It was hard work ! Have you ever tried to capsize a boat by pretending to accidentaly do it ??? I didn't think it looked very convincing!
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Posted By: ioanlavery
Date Posted: 21 Apr 05 at 9:26pm
hope there's no one here that knows me - knowing that I sailed a Pico !! Sorry Pico lovers
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 22 Apr 05 at 4:42pm
i dont think any one could love a pico!!
(sorry if i just offended you but its just my personal opinion)
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 25 Apr 05 at 11:05pm
pico are good boats to lear in but they dont do it for me
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Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 26 Apr 05 at 10:49am
no picoc are a little bit to err like bright and happy with there bright pink of yellow hulls, i find them hard to take seriously
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 26 Apr 05 at 11:05am
Hydro, that's such a shallow comment! 
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Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 26 Apr 05 at 4:36pm
thats very true - itake my comment back. however i can still think it!! 
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 26 Apr 05 at 6:20pm
picos are not a good boat to learn in you are supposed to teach people to tack standing up but its damn near impossible in a pico.
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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 26 Apr 05 at 11:06pm
they are good fun in a blow (F6-7) as they are idiot proof and hence offer safe, predictable fun and feel fast even if theay are actually going pretty slowly.
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 10:30am
yeah they're good fun just not he best boat to learn in
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Posted By: radial179102
Date Posted: 04 Jun 05 at 10:45am
good fun if the bumper car stand at the local fair ground is closed 
BRING ON THE CARNAGE!!
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Villan is my Bitch ;)
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 4:50pm
i would have said that the pico is the perfect boat to learn in!! they last for ever to!
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Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 5:06pm
well i think they are idiot proof really, and very wide- perfect to learn in as the garish yellow hulls can match the crash helmets you see the learners wearing - and cmon people weve all been there . but they are a good single hander to start in because you also have the option of a job which means the new sailors can get some experience in that type of sail
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 05 Jun 05 at 8:23pm
have u eva seen how plastic boats are repaired when they get holes in?
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Posted By: Ollie Dewhurst
Date Posted: 30 Jul 05 at 10:23pm
In my opininon Laser have only ever made one really succesful boat
(the laser) and topper have only made one really succesful boat (the
topper) the rest are just none starters, with very few exceptions. I
personally think the Feva is the best learning boat.
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Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 9:11am
YAY FEVA! i sail one and i hav to say about it that its a really slow boat in no wind - is really unbreakable unless a laser goes straight into it... but in wind it goes fast and it has a spinny... its a great learning boat.
------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...)
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RS200 897
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 11:50am
Go ollie... and pondling, i kept well up with a feva in a topper, with kite up. As soon as they dropped it, they stopped...
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 3:48pm
K well im not soo sure about the feva a coupl eof friends of mine just borrowed one for a day and beat two of the feva's top sailors hands down. They may be good learning boats but u need to move into somethign else to get good competition.
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Posted By: Ollie Dewhurst
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 4:09pm
I took out a 11 year old girl who had only jus started sailing in a F4/5
in a feva and getting it arced up on those long broad reaches was
relatively wick upto my expectations, boats who were apparantly a
lot faster on py coudln't touch us. I also believe they have a fairly
high nationals turn out dont they??
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 4:25pm
Well its getting higher but currently its only going to be around 17th for 2005. But the actal level of sailingin the fleets isnt that high was what I was saying. They may be good for getting people hooked on sailing but they arent a very good fleet to teach racing in, which is what the RYA want them to be.
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Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 10:26pm
the nationals were so funny cos all the sailors were either oppie or 420 sailors pissin about. omg. what a laff. but there were 65 at them... now i can tell people im ranked 42nd in the world - cos fevas rnt sailed anywhere else . but the saxtons - hav u seen them sail???!!! machines!!!
------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...)
Feva 251
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RS200 897
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 10:53pm
yeh there were 65 but to b honnest that isnt a very big turn out for a youth nationals. Well done on the 42nd in world lol tis classic im ranked liek top 10 in world in wineglass and iv only sailed it once
just had a lok at the nationals results and found a m8 of mine came top 15 and he dont even sail them
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Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 09 Aug 05 at 6:04pm
heehee  
------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...)
Feva 251
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RS200 897
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 09 Aug 05 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by KnightMare
yeh there were 65 but to b honnest that isnt a very big turn out for a youth nationals. Well done on the 42nd in world lol tis classic im ranked liek top 10 in world in wineglass and iv only sailed it once
just had a lok at the nationals results and found a m8 of mine came top 15 and he dont even sail them
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Pondling must be all cheered up by now... talk about vote of confidence...
Mind you, that's a good idea to exploit... Anyone knows of any fleet with hardly any boats so I could pretend to be good at last??
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 09 Aug 05 at 10:42pm
I sail a firefly sumtimes... the only 1 so we always win!!! hahahahahahah
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Posted By: reddeck74
Date Posted: 06 Sep 05 at 5:32pm
Go to http://www.rclaser.org.uk and buy a remote controlled Laser (no
building required).
There is a well organised Travellers' Trophy series around the country.
There are also some well organised races at various other locations - it's all
on the web site.
There are also regular postings of results on the Y&Y web site including the
recent National Championships.
Have a go!
Join some real hot shots.
It's quite a challenge.
------------- David
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 5:41am
Geting the kids to touch the top of their topper masts (on the water and upright), is dead funny. "Alright people, stand at the back of your boat", is always a good line! Seen 5 instructors and 2 pupils do it!
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 5:17pm
How????
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 23 Dec 05 at 11:35pm
Gettin back onto the topic. A good game to play is sink the oppie or topper. At BBSC we got 14 kids in an oppie but when the instructors tried we only got 4-6 me thinks Toppers we found hold about 10 kids but they were pretty small. You can also do boat running where, you capsise and tie the oppies and toppers together then run from one end to the other. Is great to watch especially if you attach one end to a rib and then quickly accelerate . Gives the instructors a larf
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Posted By: A Seabadger
Date Posted: 24 Dec 05 at 6:05pm
It took 18 children to sink a topper at my club!!
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 27 Dec 05 at 8:13pm
it took one at mine, he left the bung out...
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 1:00pm
What a cheater. lol
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 1:22pm
what about a stratos?? think how many people it would take to sink one of them fat things i think around 30 kids or 20 adults.
when on summer camps i have had 12 kids and 2 instructors in and it was fine
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Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 11 Jan 06 at 4:09pm
On our instructors course we played a game in toppers where u had to run tround the front of the mast when u tacked, capsize and right after every rounding and cross behind the main sheet when u gybed! Was so much fun watching lots of grown men worrying they were gona capsize a topper and complaining about the cold.
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