Calling all Alto sailors!
Printed From: Yachts and Yachting Online
Category: General
Forum Name: Banter
Forum Discription: For all those non-sailing related discussions
URL: http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4827
Printed Date: 16 Aug 25 at 4:23pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 9.665y - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Calling all Alto sailors!
Posted By: radixon
Subject: Calling all Alto sailors!
Date Posted: 03 Nov 08 at 4:09pm
|
Well can't shout too loudly but noticed a particular one wrote an article for another magazine of his experience sailing his Alto round an island. Now, there aren't that many Altos been raced, let alone some guy called GRF! (If it wasn't him its a big coincidence!) Excellent account of the event though! yep - I am still bored! |
Replies:
Posted By: no limits
Date Posted: 03 Nov 08 at 9:05pm
|
yeh have to say i agree and other magazines cud let ordinary joes write in with their race reports after a big race i.e blood mary or tiger trophy
just my 2p on wot i like reading ------------- |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 03 Nov 08 at 9:15pm
|
Good work Grumpf! I'm a DSM subscriber, must say i thought I recognised the article for a second, but its certainly a goodun! ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: Sunseeker
Date Posted: 05 Nov 08 at 9:58pm
|
I remember seeing this boat during the race, it's a nice looking boat with a big sail plan and plenty waterline length. It looks nothing like the original Alto which was little more than bits of very old 505 with a big assymetric kite, the production model is altogether a more purposeful beast. What I couldn't understand is how can this boat enter a handicap race when it doesn't, as far as I am aware, have a handicap (other than the recommendation of the builder and based on the performance of an old 505)? Does anyone know what handicap was used during the Sheppey race? Could be a candidate for handicap bandit list, in fact, that's probably my next post! |
Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 05 Nov 08 at 10:07pm
Don't all boats start off with a PY No. based on the manufacturer's recommendations ?......what do you suggest? ..... a crystal ball ?  You need to have a few race results before you can validate that PY No. and then adjust it accordingly, Nigel ------------- I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg) Graduate 2530 'Galaxy' |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 05 Nov 08 at 10:16pm
|
Nice article i have been meaning to read it since my copy of DSM bounced on the doorstep. Where is GRF lately?? ------------- |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Nov 08 at 10:47pm
from the RYA PY documentation...
http://www.rya.org.uk/assets/technical/Web%20Documents/2007%20Portsmouth%20Yardstick%20Scheme/2007%201%20Objectives%20and%20Using%20the%20Scheme.pdf - http://www.rya.org.uk/assets/technical/Web%20Documents/2007% 20Portsmouth%20Yardstick%20Scheme/2007%201%20Objectives%20an d%20Using%20the%20Scheme.pdf |
Posted By: Sunseeker
Date Posted: 05 Nov 08 at 10:49pm
|
Most new boats are produced in much larger numbers than the Alto, go through thorough development stages and are therefore sailed by a larger cross section of sailors. This allows for relatively quick barometer to be established. My understanding is that this Alto is a one off. What would have happened if they had won the Sheppey? |
Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 06 Nov 08 at 12:48am
We would never have heard the last of it
|
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 06 Nov 08 at 7:32am
And the Py's set by the Big manf. arnt part of their marketing tool then ??!!!! The alto isnt a one off its being produced by Rondar, suggesting its a one off means that there is no scope of building another!! ------------- |
Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 06 Nov 08 at 10:11am
|
there are other alto's on the production line from my understanding..... the boat that graeme has is still not the final version, he has made many nuch needed modifications that he is still liasing witht the builder to have put on the final version. ------------- Laser 184084 Tasar 3501 RS600 698 RS600 782 |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 10 Nov 08 at 9:52am
|
hahaha i especially liked the bit something along the lines of "we creamed off to a brilliant start" ... pretty impressive if this is true as it was his first open meeting? ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 10 Nov 08 at 10:57am
|
he is or was one of the top windsurfers in country though wave rider so as much as i hate to admit it he probably has more tactical knowledge then most of us! ------------- |
Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 10 Nov 08 at 5:14pm
And that's no mistake. I haven't seen the article, but it was basically a bit of a longer than normal forum post, it's on here somewhere, but at the time I was probably still banned, whilst some of my posts were being published here. They did at least have the decency to email and ask if they could publish it. The Alto is now considerably improved over the one I was using last season and I will order a new one for delivery next season, hopefully in time for the dinghy show. The Gnav failed in that race and I suspect we were trailing weed a lot further than we should have done before I discovered it all over the rudder. We were very disappointed with the result, had it all hung together we should have finished up there with the Ospreys which I might add were faster upwind but we had the legs on them offwind and they are what 940, so the 930 we sailed off probably wasn't to bad under the circumstances of it's current spec. It needs a bigger chute and a smaller main in my view, that sail we have large as it is, just twists off then flogs in anything over 10 knots, and if it didn't we would never get anywhere. But the new boat I saw at southampton, other than their persistence in using that stupid cat inspired floating circular spinnaker dispenser that we have proved to be useless over an over, is a very nice boat and now it's kitted out with a half decent rig from selden instead of the cobbled together superspars catastrophe we had to make do with, will rule, if we do the race next year it will be a whole other story. |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 5:22pm
|
Oh really, I wasn't aware, sorry G.R.F! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 16 Nov 08 at 6:32pm
|
Saw one of the Rondar hulled Altos in action today at Alton Water. I was impressed by the prototype when I saw it at the Dinghy Show however it does look even better 'in the flesh'. Sailed by Dave Carroll and Jono Baker (I think) , it was second on the water to a very sorted 5o5 and certainly looked very imposing with its large jib and square topped mainsail........if anything the kite looked a bit small, but admitedly that was in comparison to the monster symettric kite as used by the 5o5s. Nigel ------------- I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg) Graduate 2530 'Galaxy' |