New F18 : Loday White Shockwave (Photo)
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Topic: New F18 : Loday White Shockwave (Photo)
Posted By: StormySeaSailor
Subject: New F18 : Loday White Shockwave (Photo)
Date Posted: 29 Oct 08 at 11:21am
Here's a photo of the new Loday/White F18 that won the Grafham Open (looking at the http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=143956 - results , it must be fast ;-) ...)  It may become the next "must have F18"... |
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Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 29 Oct 08 at 11:38am
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That rig looks huge! Nice piece of kit ------------- |
Posted By: Captain Morgan
Date Posted: 29 Oct 08 at 1:15pm
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I'd like to see how much it costs, though... |
Posted By: StormySeaSailor
Date Posted: 29 Oct 08 at 4:11pm
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From http://voilesnews.fr/fr/info_10_17679.html - voilesnews.fr , they say 18.345 Euros complete freigh and taxes included so in the UK, it might be less ... |
Posted By: sstannard
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 9:20am
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It certainly looked fast at Grafham - although it was in very capable hands. They were sailing a prototype, and making some (minor) repairs as they sailed - distracting them from making best speed. They'd also broken both dagger boards the day beforehand, and used the heavy plugs for the moulds to compete, so I'd think there's plenty of potential left in it. ------------- So L'Eau - Shadow 067 White Tiger - Spitfire 076 Animal - Nacra 6.0 GBR400 |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 12:10pm
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The daggerboards coming out of Loday/White have always suprised me with their fragility. My wife and her father destroyed several daggerboards in their Spitfire and were often told to raise them a couple of inches to reduce the likelyhood of it happening again, but surely a foil that small should be strong enough to be left fully down all the time?
I was also suprised to see that in the construction of the foils they seem to use a couple of layers of glass over foam with no stiffeners. The weight saving from this cant be much when you compare the foils to most dinghy foils which are significantly stiffer and designed to stay down all the time. The stern looks interesting with plenty of volume and hints towards a semi-planing design either that or my eyes are screwed! |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 12:44pm
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'course monohull dinghy foils have to withstand crew and helm jumping up and down on them during capsize recovery! ------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: Spitfire190
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 1:14pm
I sailed on the Spitfire since the first prototypes and the only time I broke a daggerboard was went it hit a rock ... actually I feel lucky that it broke instead of the hull ... I did countless long distance races with heavy crews, daggerboards down, 2 traps and the spinaker on, I'm still waiting for a daggerboard to fail ... |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 1:22pm
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I dare say that some are stronger than others, but it does seem strange that these problems arise with the boards. I think most sailors in the UK would rather have a set of foils that last the life of the boat but weigh a kg more than having to fork out £250 every 6 months for another lightweight set.
For info my father in law bought his boat shortly following the launch at Sailboat back in the day and raced the boat hard for many years so this isnt some recent issue on a secondhand boats. |
Posted By: sstannard
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 4:11pm
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The only time I have broken a dagger board was when I tried to sail over a very large buoy... Frankly, if it hadn't broken, I don't know if I'd ever have gotten off the thing. Otherwise, I sailed the Spitfire with both boards fully down, upwind and downwind, in all sorts of weather and waves, no problem. ------------- So L'Eau - Shadow 067 White Tiger - Spitfire 076 Animal - Nacra 6.0 GBR400 |
Posted By: gary145
Date Posted: 12 Nov 08 at 11:48pm
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no problems known to me, unless you hit something of course! ------------- |
Posted By: rudderlesslaser
Date Posted: 26 Nov 08 at 9:45am
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hope it is worth it
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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 23 Dec 08 at 8:10am
| with the exchange rate as it is anything imported into the uk is going to be very expensive. so the shockwave will be a bargin compared to the new tiger and the older f18s like the capricorn and nacras |
Posted By: hongkongchippy
Date Posted: 28 Jan 09 at 1:39am
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My Dart Hawk blades are tough enough. They've had a lot of stick over the years and just have the usual nicks and wear on the bottom. I've even had to stand on one to get the boat up on my own.
The new boat looks good. The one reservation I have is that it still has the rounded hull. I have 2 Loday/White designs (The Hawk and a Dart 16) and the impression I get is that they lose out to other boats with flat sided hulls. The water pressure on the flat hulls seems to prevent a bit of leeway and also allows them to point higher. This is from sailing Nacra F18s and Tigers. All the new boats, the new Wild Cat, the Infusion, the Bimarre and the Capricorn all have radically different hull designs. The Shockwave looks like it will be a more stable boat though, and this counts for a lot in British waters! The shockwave won't suffer what helped kill of the Hawk though. The strong Pound! |
Posted By: timddeb
Date Posted: 02 Aug 09 at 10:50am
| I blew up a couple of new Spitfire Centreboards just plain reaching. New boards, no obstructions, just speed |
Posted By: timddeb
Date Posted: 02 Aug 09 at 10:54am
| Francois Morvan and Mathieu Vandame have just won their class in the Costamoricaine 2009 in one, so its going well in france as well. |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 03 Aug 09 at 9:11am
| Tim, glad to know it wasnt just us! |