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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: New Dinghy Boots...
Posted By: dave.blakesley
Subject: New Dinghy Boots...
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:02am
Just looking for some advice, yesterday i lost my dinghy boots and since
they were on the way out anyway i need to get a new pair! Was looking at
the Gill hiking boot and the magic marine ones, both £35 ish, anyone have
any experiance with either (or both!) or have any other suggestions? Before i
had rooster hiking boots...



Replies:
Posted By: Wes
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:14am

I lIke Gill products normally, but the hiking boots are not that good. The velcro zip closure tab at the top keeps coming undone meaning the boots will unzip anf the gel on the sole 'bunches' up to form lumps under your feet.

Anything wrong with the Rooster ones? I was about to buy some...

 



Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:23am
Originally posted by Wes

I lIke Gill products normally, but the hiking boots are not that good. The velcro zip closure tab at the top keeps coming undone meaning the boots will unzip



I have the same issue with some ronstan ones...


Posted By: dave.blakesley
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:24am
with the gill ones, is that with these ones (the ones im looking at):

http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Hiking_Boots_black _Adult_
~p_DG-906~c5212.html

or these ones;


http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Gill_Hiking_Boots_Adult ~p_90
6~c5212.html

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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:49am
There are a few comments against some of the boots in the Y&Y 'shopping' section:
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/products/category.asp?c=21&m=0 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/products/category.asp?c=21& m=0

A few people have left star ratings too. But the comments are the most enlightening. Seems one particular Rooster boot is popular.


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 11:09am

The Rooster boot that has popular listings, the Rooster Zipped Boot, was exactly the same as the Gill ones before they changed them. the current Grey Gill hiking boot is pants. The sole has no grip at all, and is dead uncomfortable. The tab, as has been said is not good either, I wasn't that impressed with them from Gill so then got the Rooster Hiking boots, and love them.

The Rooster Hiking boots are more comfortable as they don't cover your ankle so when hiking make it easier to flex the ankle.

Personally get the Rooster ones, don't walk for miles in them and that way the sole will last longer. That said, the Gill ones wear anyway.



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Posted By: Laser 173312
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 11:53am

I've not found anything to better the Rooster boots.

I'd avoid any with a zip on them, they always seem to come undone.

 



Posted By: Wes
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 12:14pm
Sorry Dave, can't get those links to work?


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 12:24pm
I'm aware I'll get accused of 'boring' y'all with windsurf speak but I will
anyway.

We both use the split toe boots we use when sailing our race boards.

Why? Primary reason? We used to swim, a lot, and splitties work more like
your bare feet in that regard.

Other reasons? Good for toe straps, him not me. Minimal water intrusion
therefore less weight, I imagine a good couple of kilos swilling round in
yellow wellies.

Just my three happorth.


Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 12:35pm
rooster hiking boots have served me well, grip is getting a little worn down now but that's mainly due to use and hauling boat up and down slipway which wears down all grips in the end anyway - never had an issue with the zip coming undone but I fold the bottom of my wetsuit legs over the top of the boots normally and I think this helps keep the zip closed and stop it coming undone, they are flexible too, which defo helps

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 12:36pm

But there's no split-toe boots I've seen with the hiking grip on the upper side- if you ever properly hiked out on your boat (which isn't really something you should be doing much on a single wire two man boat, I'll grant you) you would understand.

I've got a pair of zip-less 3mm Typhoon "hybrid" ones, which are pretty good (though the thin trapezeing style sole may prove their downfall) and pair of chunky 5mm zip-up boots from Decathlon- think they cost be about €20 a few years ago, and the only damage so far is thanks to the "industrial sandpaper as deck-grip" fiasco. Lovely and toasty, with a "fleecy" type lining.



Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 1:30pm
My Typhoon dinghy boots lasted me 10 years and were great.   My new Gill trapeze boots are comfy and warm (though it's not winter yet) but I haven't a hope of getting the zip to stay up.

I went against splitties because I didn't want to to hurt my delicate little footsies wandering round on shore.  On that note, if I'm doing safety boat I wear Aigle boots and if I'm teaching in the summer I wear cheap water shoes from Aldi!


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Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 1:42pm
Originally posted by Wes

I lIke Gill products normally, but the hiking boots are not that good. The velcro zip closure tab at the top keeps coming undone meaning the boots will unzip anf the gel on the sole 'bunches' up to form lumps under your feet.

The new Gill ones have a strap that goes all the way round the ankle and are much less prone to unzipping, though I still always roll my wetsuit legs over them which stops it happening too.



Posted By: Captain Morgan
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 1:46pm

I've been using the Magic Marine "X-lock" zip up boots for three years. I don't find them comfy as they seem to "suck" onto my feet which feels like they're going to dislocate my feet if I point my toes... The zips have only just started to come undone this last couple of months. They are wearing out now, so I'll get some new boots for next year (thinking of the Gill ones until now!). I might be tempted by the Ronstan Race Boots, mainly because of the solid sole.

I also have a pair of Crewsaver Sports Boots for use with my drysuit - These don't have zips, just wrap-around velcro straps, and I find them very comfortable.



Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by alstorer

But there's no split-toe boots I've seen with the
hiking grip on the upper side- if you ever properly hiked out on your boat
(which isn't really something you should be doing much on a single wire
two man boat, I'll grant you) you would understand.




What are you on about?

What pray tell me is the difference between that bit of nylon hiking strop
and the inside of a footstrap?

Surely the strain is not such that they wear out any more than they might
in windsurf straps, I'll fall about helpless with mirth, in fact wait a mo, I've
been using them none stop now for two years and that's dinghy racing
twice a week, plus longboard racing at least once a week, then the other
stuff I do, kiting etc.

I must be missing something here - or maybe you are.

PS You may not have noticed, its' been windy this year and we're in an
overpowered boat, I've been hiking plenty..


Posted By: feva sailor
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 3:53pm

to reply to the post of someone's unziping trapeze boot get the magic marine skiff boot from http://www.discountsailing.com - www.discountsailing.com   £15

absolutly brill boots for sailing. (in a 29er anyway)

 

as for hiking i wear siple ziper boots and i too have the same zip issues!

id get something shoe type or with strps, no zips.

normally i hike off my ankles or shins in the feva because i think im getting a bit too big and if i hike off my feet its the backof my shins that are on the gunwhales.

yea its alot of levreage but it hurts

trapezings nicer in that respect



Posted By: tickler
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 7:55pm
Decathlon,  £13, velcro round the top a good grippy sole and renforcement for hiking.
mind you fashion is of no interest to me, why pay more?


Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 8:58pm
The Rooster Hiking Boots are great in use (I have three pairs in rotation).
The only issues I have are they could do with a pull tab on ankle so I don't keep putting my finger through the neoprene. And if you have a boat park/launching area with sharp gravel the soles are a bit thin of occasion.


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Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 9:53pm

Some of the Zhik ones are pretty good, i dont have a pair but my crew has the "racing boot" and they're really good, super grippy and not too thick.

http://www.pinbax.com/zhik/index.asp?selection=category&InBox=Footwear&countstart=0 - http://www.pinbax.com/zhik/index.asp?selection=category& InBox=Footwear&countstart=0



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Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Captain Morgan

I've been using the Magic Marine "X-lock" zip up boots for three years. I don't find them comfy as they seem to "suck" onto my feet which feels like they're going to dislocate my feet if I point my toes... The zips have only just started to come undone this last couple of months. They are wearing out now, so I'll get some new boots for next year


Magic Marine also do an 'X-Lock' hiking boot that does without the zip entirely, they rely on stretchy neoprene around the ankle and have a simple velcro flap at the top.... very comfy but seem to have quite thin soles - they seem hard-wearing enough but you do feel every loose stone on the slipway !

Nigel


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Posted By: Skiffman
Date Posted: 21 Oct 08 at 9:46am
get the new zhik 450 racing boot or the 350 which is heavier designed for hiking. The side lace system is really good at supporting for ankle and the grip on the 450 is far better than any other boot. It feels like our 49er is re gripped when we use them compared with the magic marine which we thought use to have the most grip. They work really well if you have the footstraps aswell because of the grip on the top of the boat matches the grip on the foot straps. 

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 25 Oct 08 at 1:16pm

Very happy with Typhoon dinghy boots

http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Typhoon_Dinghy_Boots_Adult~p_1626~c5212.html - http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Catalogue~Typhoon_Dinghy_Boots_Ad ult~p_1626~c5212.html

Good grip on everything I've sailed, including (importantly) water-soaked gelcoat.



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Posted By: dave.blakesley
Date Posted: 26 Oct 08 at 5:05pm
thanks for all the advice guys and girls, bit disappointed i found my boots
(lurking in the kite bag!) but think i may get a new pair soon anyway due to
the sole having all but rubbed off the bottom of my rooster ones!

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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 26 Oct 08 at 8:33pm
would go with the extremity booties, try to get a size thats a tight fit cause they stretch a bit. but u do stick to the side like glue

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