Hobie 14 turbo vs Dart 15
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Category: Multihulls
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Topic: Hobie 14 turbo vs Dart 15
Posted By: Rory 101
Subject: Hobie 14 turbo vs Dart 15
Date Posted: 15 Aug 08 at 5:24pm
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I am planning on buying a hobie 14 turbo or a dart 15. Has anyone got an experience with these boat and would like 2 recomend one.
Rory ------------- Please reply |
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 15 Aug 08 at 7:14pm
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Rory,
where will you be sailing it? I assume UK as that is where your profile says. We have virtually no H14's in the UK, but loads of Dart (now Sprint) 15's. If you want more power, Buy the Hobie 14, but for class racing, and an association to support you and help, buy the Sprint 15. Sprint 15 has a open circuit, H14 does not.
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Posted By: Rory 101
Date Posted: 15 Aug 08 at 7:20pm
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I will be sailing it in Dundee scotland. I am new to multi hull sailing so i dont really wind racing in a class event. (There is also someone else at my club that has a hobie.) Is one boat better for tacking than the other? Is one easyier to pitch pole than the other? ------------- Please reply |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 15 Aug 08 at 9:05pm
Better for tacking, maybe the H14, better at pitchpole avoidance will be the Sprint 15. Hobie 14 is a bit quicker, but only about 2% ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Rory 101
Date Posted: 15 Aug 08 at 9:08pm
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Ok thanks for that advice. Looking at the prices i think i will go for the hobie 14. ------------- Please reply |
Posted By: Catsrule
Date Posted: 16 Aug 08 at 9:34pm
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What club do u sail on at the Tay??? The Royal Tay Yacht Club?? ------------- There's no such thing as bad day on the water!! |
Posted By: Rory 101
Date Posted: 16 Aug 08 at 10:50pm
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I sail at Dundee sailing club. its just 200 yards along the road from the royal tay ------------- Please reply |
Posted By: Jimbob
Date Posted: 16 Aug 08 at 10:51pm
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On 28/07/08 in the 'Dinghy Development' Section of Y & Y Forum a thread was started which discussed many aspects of your question. I would suggest you read the comments there before making a final choice.
Here is what I posted about the Sprint15(aka Dart 15). A Sprint 15 (used to be Dart 15) catamaran satisfies all your requirements. And you can sail it off the beach with the rest of them. It can be sailed in the following way:- unarig for one person hiking, 2 sails for 2 persons hiking, or 2 sails for 1 person trapezing. Can be car topped but easier trailed. ------------- Jimbob |
Posted By: Jimbob
Date Posted: 16 Aug 08 at 10:52pm
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I should have added. It is a great little boat. ------------- Jimbob |
Posted By: Rory 101
Date Posted: 16 Aug 08 at 11:03pm
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I looked for the thread and cannot see it. Can the dart 15 be beached in the same way that the hobie can be? How much better do u feel the dart is than the hobie? ------------- Please reply |
Posted By: Jimbob
Date Posted: 18 Aug 08 at 7:55pm
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Rory 101. The topic heading in Dinghy Development is 'choice dinghy/cat' 1st post 29/07/08.
I only started sailing the Sprint about 8 months ago, having sailed monohulls before that, so I'm not an expert on Sprints or other cats. But it has no real vices that I have discovered, yet, and I have been out in winds up to F6 in it. I'm sure it can be beached like other cats, (and other boats)if you don't mind scraping the bottom! ------------- Jimbob |
Posted By: scottish_tornad
Date Posted: 19 Aug 08 at 6:08pm
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Rory If you mean sailed up the beach like some 14/16 sailors do to show off then the dart wouldnt last long hobies are bullet proof in build quality and can take a battering the sprint 15 is a bit less robust both boats have their merits just depends what you wish to use it for another option if you are looking for a single hander well several options hobie 17, dart 18 unirig ,inter17, stealth I had a h17 when first got into cats great boat and cheap as chips if you can find one all depends on your budget and size really and what you want from it ps i sail at dalgety bay and the guys at royal tay are friendly too if you fancy a go on the T send me a pm and we can arrange a time ------------- tornado GBR389 www.dalgetybaysc.org/home.htm |
Posted By: Sprint Bob
Date Posted: 27 Aug 08 at 11:14pm
Look this one is cheap and it is up by you
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....................Posted By: robinmhughes
Date Posted: 01 Sep 08 at 8:04pm
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Hi Rory, I've been sailing my H14 for a few years now, and I still think it is one of the best cats you can sail. They are very lively/exciting though in a blow, and will happily capsize in just about any manor, particularly going over backwards whilst tacking! They are easy to write on your own though. However they can surprise a lot of newer boats and in particular can give a H16 a good run for its money. Their pretty low maintenance, mine even has plastic rudders so minimal fibre glass repairs. The hulls are tough as old boots and don't mind being dragged/sailed up the beach. Go for a turbo if you can find one as the jib makes a world of difference for tacking and downwind sailing. |
Posted By: Rory 101
Date Posted: 02 Sep 08 at 10:41pm
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I was planning on getting a turbo. How easy would it be to convert a normal hobie 14 to a turbo? ------------- Please reply |
Posted By: robinmhughes
Date Posted: 08 Sep 08 at 9:40pm
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In theory it could be done, but to be honest I'm not sure how much a conventional 14 differs from a turbo, whether there is any extra hull reinforcements for example. As a guess I would say you would need to find a forestay with a rotating bit at the top, a furler, bridle wires, jib blocks, wire for the jib blocks to attach to, and obviously a jib. You might have to get 2 eyelets punched into the tramp as well, for where the jib blocks come through. |
Posted By: Rory 101
Date Posted: 08 Sep 08 at 9:45pm
Ok i will deffinently go for a turbo if i go for the 14. Does anyone know about attaching a spinnaker to either of the boats.  ------------- Please reply |
Posted By: robinmhughes
Date Posted: 09 Sep 08 at 9:21am
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I had a dart 18 spinnanker on my 14 for quite awhile, it use to go like a rocket! The dart spinny was very easy to fit as well, since most of the bits tied on, with no modifications needed. Also there pretty cheap second hand. |
Posted By: Teamvmg
Date Posted: 09 Sep 08 at 6:19pm
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Make sure that you have a dolphin striker if you are going to trapeze. the old standard 14 didn't have one |
Posted By: h14turbo
Date Posted: 03 Jan 09 at 3:00pm
| On a Hobie 14 (I've got one), you don't really want a spinnaker, you want a sail called a hooter (essentially a reacher). I makes for a trully brilliant if a little terrifyring ride. It can be used upwind in a light wind, and downwind all the time. I have photos of my setup for this sail and for a normal turbo if anyone wants it. |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 03 Jan 09 at 5:22pm
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THe problem with the houter is that it does not rate as a Spi under SCHRS (It does not conform to the 75% mid-girth rule to qualify as a Spi and so you get hammered as it is rated as a Jib.
However, for fun sailing...... ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |