Some Forum Help
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Forum Name: Choosing a boat
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Topic: Some Forum Help
Posted By: SetSail
Subject: Some Forum Help
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 7:54pm
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Here is the thing guys, Im about to put my 800 up for sale due to lack of time and lack of crew. however i still want to be able to sail so im looking for a single hander. now the task gets harder. constraints are..... probably more simple to sail, as much performance as possible, wire or not, but probably for local club not suitable. lightweight to heave up shingle beach, fleet not a problem cos chances are wouldnt take it to open meetings anyway. any price. im looking for something that i can get in and sail, basically. now this is a task pretty impossible due to so many possibilities. i was starting to think along the lines of a vareo. suggestions and advice welcome. ------------- RS821 - Now for sale, PM for details |
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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 8:24pm
Um, RS600. Performance is there, theres a wire and its light. (Facts say its lighter than the vareo) and you will probably get change if you want it. Or go for the RS300, can do well on handicap and but not sure about the weight of it. Or the contender (although not seen one race so cant comment there) ------------- |
Posted By: Wee Man
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 8:27pm
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Have you considered a cat? A Shadow looks like a cracking single hander, I've never sailed one but it looks great and it's got a kite. Then there's the Stealth or an A Class, all with lots of performance. |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 9:37pm
the rs300 is plenty light enough. very friendly social scene on the circuit. some very good sailors to compete against aswell. not having a wire means you can sail it at your local club. but then i am slightly biased  ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: DaveL
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 10:44pm
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Rs300 sounds a good plan or if you want the wire something like the 600 or the contender, carries weight fairly well and high performance. How much do you weigh?
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Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 11:32pm
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I'm normally very cat biased, but pulling a cat up a shingle beach singled handed, even with one of those big wheeled trolley's doesn't sound fun ------------- |
Posted By: SetSail
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 11:50pm
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im a bit of a fatty at 14st odd, another reason to get rid of the 800. its all muscle and no pub....i promise. 300 seems a good shout at the mo. given the amount of time i'll have to sail it, is the level of ability needed to sail it to difficult given the amount of time on the water i'll have to get used to it or will the time in the 800 stand me in good stead? whats the performance like compared to the vareo? cat isn't really a runner given space on beach and in boat park. ------------- RS821 - Now for sale, PM for details |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 11:55pm
Depends on the lard factor of the boat A class 75kg F16 104kg and a Kite to play with Sprint 15 (dart 15) 104kg Dart 18 136kg ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 24 Jun 08 at 1:12am
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the 300 is a fair amount faster than the vareo. it is quite a difficult boat to get the hand of at first. after a mofew sails you will be able to get it around a course ok and from then on it just gets better. your time in the 800 will help but primarily its the instability of the thing and the way it is so sensitive to trim which catches people out. at 14stone you will be ok in the 300. weights of those on the circuit ranges from 60kg ish up to 100or so. its about how you sail the boat not how heavy you are or how big your wallet is. that said, most of the boats are getting on a bit now so you may find you need to spend a bit on replacing cleats and some blocks etc if they are the originals. ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 24 Jun 08 at 7:13am
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300 will be the best bet for you, its much faster round a course then a vareo (even with the kite up) I sold mine recently and i weighed 14 1/2 stone i was fine. They are very very light one the Tolley, there is no single handed hiker on the market that matches it I'm afraid. The only problem with a 300 is you wont just jump in it and sail it like you would say a laser. It has a "wet" period usually of a month, once you are passed that you will be able to get round the course, and its all up wards from there. ------------- |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 24 Jun 08 at 9:57am
It does depend on previous experiences. You may find you can just step into the 300 and sail it but it will take some time to really get it going. ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 24 Jun 08 at 10:52am
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I Suppose Mr Cockeril is wrong then! I have had 22 years of dinghy racing experience in my earleir days at quite a respectable level, including racing latest rules I14's (morrison 12 which is notorous as one of the hardest hull shapes to keep upright) and when i jumped in the 300 i don't mind admitting i swam a fair bit, you can just jump in one and sail one, but not in any kind of blow. Unless you just want to reach up and down. ------------- |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 24 Jun 08 at 11:12am
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agreed, unless you are coming from something like a lowrider moth then you will swim a bit to start with. but after a few weeks you will be swimming less and racing more. then its worth it. even in open meetings people capsize though. the last one i went to (dovestone) was quite wild and even the top 2boats capsized a few times each. if you want to know ore join the yahoo rs300 group (google it) and ask a few questions. they are really friendly and will know of boats for sale before they even come on the market. alternatively pm me any queries you may have an i will try and answer them from my few months experience i have had so far. ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: SetSail
Date Posted: 24 Jun 08 at 5:27pm
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thanks for all the in put. seems like i will investigate the 300 some
more. i guess i would be looking for a b rig being near top end weight?
i was thinking thou today, why not settle for a standard laser? i think that could be answered by the fun factor and the speed factor. plus, i like a good challenge when it comes to sailing new boats. now all i need to do is sell the 800......its just had a mast refurb  ------------- RS821 - Now for sale, PM for details |
Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 25 Jun 08 at 10:13am
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if you are going to go for a laser why not get a 8.1 rig? however i would seriously look into the rs300 ------------- http://www.blym.org.uk/ - BLYM http://www.blym.org.uk/hydrs/index.htm - Hertfordshire Sailing team Uk-Cherub 2644 Laser 4000 -4089 |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 25 Jun 08 at 11:28am
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if you want to try a 300 out then join the rs300yahoo forum and ask for a test sail. people are really friendly and im sure we can find someone near you willing to let you have a go ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |