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Topic: heavyweight sailing
Posted By: silverwood
Subject: heavyweight sailing
Date Posted: 22 May 08 at 6:21pm
Having sailed lasers, phantoms, solos, streakers etc I am now looking for a non spinnaker 2 sail boat to sail with a novice crew in their 50's. Total crew weight 26 - 30 stone. A wineglass or plastic albacore maybe possible - anyone got any other ideas? Also there is a Marlin on ebay but I cant find any information anywhere about the boat apart from the ebay ad!



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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 May 08 at 10:31pm
Marlin too small. How about a Kestrel, and don't use the spinnaker? Same would go for a Wayfarer, though they do weigh a bit...National 18?

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: silverwood
Date Posted: 22 May 08 at 10:39pm
Thanks Rupert....Kestral is definately an option if I can get a cheap one. The Marlin looks better than the Enterprise we are currently using but the main problem is I cant find any official measurements for beam and sail area etc to compare with other boats. A Wineglass (if I can find one) could be another option - lighter than a Wayfarer or a Kestral.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 22 May 08 at 11:59pm
Where are you planning on sailing?


Posted By: silverwood
Date Posted: 23 May 08 at 12:26am
Portsmouth harbour...out of Portchester Sailing club. Similar to Langstone and Chichester harbours, sheltered inland tidal waters with occaisonal big wind shifts!


Posted By: James Morley
Date Posted: 23 May 08 at 10:20am
How competitively will you be sailing? Will you be racing?  

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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 23 May 08 at 11:11am

Originally posted by silverwood

Portsmouth harbour...out of Portchester Sailing club. Similar to Langstone and Chichester harbours, sheltered inland tidal waters with occaisonal big wind shifts!

There is only one boat for Portsmouth Harbour with it's Navy connections - dare I say it.

 

The Bosun - strong, sturdy, no kite, is heavy so a little bit more won't matter



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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 23 May 08 at 11:16am
Originally posted by Contender443

Originally posted by silverwood

Portsmouth harbour...out of
Portchester Sailing club. Similar to Langstone and Chichester harbours,
sheltered inland tidal waters with occaisonal big wind shifts!


There is only one boat for Portsmouth Harbour with it's Navy connections
- dare I say it.


 


The Bosun - strong, sturdy, no kite, is heavy so a little bit more won't
matter



Bosuns do have a kite!

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Needs to sail more...


Posted By: silverwood
Date Posted: 23 May 08 at 12:20pm

Aiming for mid fleet club results...crew has never sailed before and not too nimble due to knee problems, so the helm (me) will be the one sitting out!

Bosun is just sooo heavy to pull up the slip - might as well get a wayfarer!



Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 9:24am

26 - 30 stone (depending on the day of the week and the time of the year) seems to be an ideal weight for a Laser 2000.

We started sailing one about 2 months ago and have had great fun - competitive in both light and strong winds. The boat can be great fun in the right winds, and is a boat where (in general) the helm has a little more to do than the crew, but the crew's ability on the kite sheet is vital to down-wind speed.

There are some available 2nd hand, and they seem to hold their value well - but look out for heavily used examples from sailing schools.



Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 9:41am

Albacore, without a doubt. Strong, powerfull, stable and yet still suprisingly fast.

 

Great underated boat.



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Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 1:14pm
Bosuns do have a kite, but the RN boats rigging is ridiculous its faster to just two-sail!

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Neil



Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by Merlinboy

... suprisingly fast.



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Posted By: silverwood
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 2:02pm

looks like it will be a Kestral for use without a spinnaker.....or a GRP Albacore if I can find one cheap enough!  Novice crew prohibts spinnaker use - at least for this season. Thanks for all your postings!

I am crewing a Laser 2000 midweek (with an experienced helm) and think 26 - 30 stone is a bit heavy....any other comments?



Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 3:24pm
you should be able to pick up a Rondar GRP alb for upto £2000 if your luck you could get one for about £500.  They are a good boat with a nice helpfull class association.  Good luck

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Posted By: silverwood
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 3:27pm
Budget is £500 or under......looking at a Kestral for £300 tonight


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 30 May 08 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by silverwood

looks like it will be a Kestral for use without a spinnaker.....or a GRP Albacore if I can find one cheap enough!  Novice crew prohibts spinnaker use - at least for this season. Thanks for all your postings!

I am crewing a Laser 2000 midweek (with an experienced helm) and think 26 - 30 stone is a bit heavy....any other comments?

30 might be pushing ti a bit, but in my experience they're not particularly weight sensitive. If the wind's light, as with any boat, just get the body mass forward to lift the transom just clear of the water.



Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Jun 08 at 3:40pm
Originally posted by silverwood

Budget is £500 or under......looking at a Kestral for £300 tonight

Did you get it?


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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: silverwood
Date Posted: 04 Jun 08 at 3:45pm

Not yet...I think the seller may be having second thoughts about selling!

I see they race at Hamble off 1059 with no spinnaker




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