Latest Topper Xenon thing
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: Latest Topper Xenon thing
Posted By: MikeBz
Subject: Latest Topper Xenon thing
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 10:07am
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Hull weight 118kgs - is that a typo? 33kgs more than an RS400? Will a jockey wheel be standard? You can't say you're not getting a lot of boat for your money... |
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Posted By: Adds
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 10:48am
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Topper must be really proud of there new boat as i can't find it on there website yet and i only heard a couple of people mention it from the show. ------------- Cheers Dudes |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 12:40pm
| It is going to be used in the Endeavour Trophy (Dinghy Champion of Champions event). There is a long press release on that story on (ahem) another UK sailing news site. Unlike before where competitors had to scrounge an RS400 from somewhere, Topper will supply the boats. |
Posted By: IanW
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 12:53pm
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Posted By: IanW
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 12:55pm
| What a reward for winnig your nationals the chance to sail this Ummmmm |
Posted By: Adds
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 1:14pm
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Stick a trapeze on it and oh my god it is Vago!!!
and possibly an even worse name. ------------- Cheers Dudes |
Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 4:51pm
| does anyone else think topper and laser have the same lazy designer? who does all the boats they ever make and the names they say design them are fake? |
Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 4:55pm
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lol! at least if they both make the same boats neither will sell more than
the other...ie none at all ------------- |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 8:30pm
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So do you think this will be the final nail in the coffin for the Endeavour Trophy? ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 24 Jan 05 at 8:45pm
| In these Internet days you have to be a bit careful about giving classes names so that search engiones can find them... TYpe Cherub into a web browser and you get 100 links telling you where to buy kitsch little figurines for instance. A made up name like vargo kinda makes sense. |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 25 Jan 05 at 7:09am
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I don't - I think it is a good choice. It has been clear over many years that using a mainstream racing class has given a major advantage to those familiar with that class. Using a simple boat like this will level the playing field and having the boats supplied will make taking part much simpler. Also the optimum crew weight is likely to be closer to that for a range of 2-handed classes than the RS400, which is firmly a heavyweight's class.
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Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 25 Jan 05 at 8:36am
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>>RS400 which is firmly a heavyweight's class.
I don't agree with that one. The 2004 Club Championships for the RS400 (which comprised a series of 15 races at each club, followed by a final event for the top placed qualifiers of 9 races) was won with an all up weight of 20 to 21 stone, with second place weighing around 22 stone. Other people at the same club race with an all up weight of closer to 30 stone: so the 400 is a good weight carrier, rather than requiring weight.
But I do agree that, although sailing the 400 is pretty straight forward, being able to master it requires practise - and the time to do that is not always available to members of other classes for the Endeavour Trophy. |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 25 Jan 05 at 8:44am
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"...30 boats is Buckley's target for this year and he is determined to maintain the standard of the event when it comes to the competitors. He is hoping that by taking the time to talk to the individual classes at the Show the RCYC will get a good idea as to which classes will be invited to come to the conclusion of the summer's racing at national, European and World Championship level. A new Endeavour Committee has been elected at the RCYC and the selection criteria is the first major thing they will be looking at says Buckley. "At the show we'll be able to gauge what classes we could invite and find out what their hopes and ambitions are for their own nationals. One of the concerns is that if the sailing standard gets poor it will totally spoil the event."
I think if they want 30 boats they should ask any National Champion who will come! ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 25 Jan 05 at 10:21am
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It would surprise me if they haven't.
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