14 Mast Covering
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Topic: 14 Mast Covering
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Subject: 14 Mast Covering
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 7:37pm
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Forumites, What is the best way to coat a carbon mast? I cant afford to varnish it. Would a bit of black paint work? If so what is the best stuff to use Cheers, Alex ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 7:42pm
White paint is good as it doesn't absorb much heat and light. ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 7:44pm
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I used to ask around at my club and and most people would have some varnish spare and will be willing to give me some! Splosh ------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 7:54pm
It needs to be decent stuff or else it won't adhere properly and just peel off. ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 7:58pm
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It is... I think... well its UV protecting and hasn't peeled off in the last 3 months, so it must be ok!?
------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 8:56pm
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Just fork out the cash and varnish it. Its not worth skimping on it. If your insistant on painting it ,i'd paint it white with some form of two pot paint ------------- |
Posted By: chrisg
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 9:07pm
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How about this for those on a budget: http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0141543 - http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0141543 Probably won't last that long and will need frequent recoating but will probably be better than leaving it untreated. My 14 mast is painted white because, as said previously, I think thats the best colour for protection from UV etc etc. |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 9:49pm
| Alex ask Abe he's a plastics expert - they call him "The Professor" in the trade! |
Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 10:23pm
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Don't be a tightwad. If you're sailing a 14, splash out on some varnish. The stuff to use is 2 pack International Perfection, 7 times the UV rsistance of the standard stuff. Alternatively, paint it black, devalue your boat, and have the mast get warm from the black paint absorbing the heat... ------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 10:38pm
Doesn't that happen with varnish too? I can't imagine the varnish blocking a lot of infra red... |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 12:44am
Im unemployed, Have a 14, car and Girlfriend to see so cash is very tight. ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 12:56am
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How much more is a pot of varnish over a pot of paint?
------------- Ross If you can't carry it, don't sail it! |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 7:23am
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I suspect he already has a pot of paint.... I painted my spare mast with white toplac, which seems to have done ok. Don't have the facilities to be messing about with 2 pack paints... Assuming the weather allows hoping to get my main mast done at some point this winter... ------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard" Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 7:28am
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OK then a quick search of Fleabay has International Goldspar at £13. Not as good as 2 pack but still better than Wilkos own brand I suspect. No one ever said sailing was cheap, but my top tip for the day would be to politely tell your girlfriend that due to the non-sustainable capitalist undertones of Valentine's day and all associated "traditional" celebrations rammed down our throats by the likes of Clinton cards etc, you will not be taking her out for a candlelit meal for two now, but instead you propose that she comes round to your "romantic 14 mast varnishing party"...it will be just the two of you, and by the way it's bring your own varnish. Hope this helps. ------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
Posted By: andy_cherub
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 9:51am
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! good answer bud, say, how is the missus ------------- -12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites' -Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 10:25am
or option B get rid of her, save money and get more sailing in! ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: Adds
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 10:40am
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Option B all the way ------------- Cheers Dudes |
Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 12:23pm
hahaha, has it really come to this. cover the mast or keep the girlfriend  ------------- http://www.blym.org.uk/ - BLYM http://www.blym.org.uk/hydrs/index.htm - Hertfordshire Sailing team Uk-Cherub 2644 Laser 4000 -4089 |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 12:37pm
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Gf is staying and will get round to mast sometime. Cheers, Alex ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: iansmithofotley
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 4:50pm
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Hi Alex, Last winter I painted my carbon mast with three coats of Goldspar after gently sanding it down. It was easy to do and I got a good finish (I varnished it in the house in a warm temperature leaving it overnight between coats). I am very satisfied with the job albeit I don't know how long it will last before it will need doing again. The main reason for my post is that I was always under the impresssion that you could only use two pack paints and varnishes over existing two pack finishes, whereas normal paint or varnish can be used over anything (after reasonable preparation). I think that it would be a good idea to try and find out what kind of finish is already on your mast before just using two pack. An alternative would be to make a really thorough job of getting every trace of the old paint off before using two pack. Goldspar is a safe option. Someone with much greater knowledge than myself might like to comment on the feasibility of using two pack varnish over the top of 'normal' varnish and any possible adverse consequences. Ian (Yorkshire Dales S.C.) |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 5:39pm
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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 5:42pm
/\ /\ /\ he obviously can't talk as the younger brother!!!
Sell the 4K, before it looses any more money and no-one wants to buy them. Then enough £££ to buy vanish and keep girlfriend happy. ------------- |