RS300
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Topic: RS300
Posted By: hardinguk
Subject: RS300
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 12:59pm
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Having grown up through the ranks of Mirrors, Toppers, Lasers and then Snipes I have been off the water for 10 years. Time and passion are back and a single hander will give me the most freedom. If you know a Snipe, it is a two man, tactical boat without trapeeze or spinnaker. The latter means that I am not yet up for something like the RS600 but the RS300 seems to tick all the boxes - if I can find one in the South East. I am a capable helm and looking for a challenge. Large Laser class at the club but I feel like I have done that. Are there any other classes out there I should be looking at to compare the RS300? Weight 82kg, 5' 11", age a fit 33 Thoughts appreciated. Many thanks ------------- Jnr Snipe Worlds Snipe Nationals |
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 2:36pm
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Get a Laser; if you are returning it will be much more fun to race against others and your build is the prefect fit for a Laser. The 300 would be a nicer boat to sail but unless there are others at your club I'd go with the Laser. ------------- |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 3:43pm
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300 is a great boat unfortunatley there are very few used ones around and you will have to travel to buy one! Blaze is similar boat, i think there are some big fleets around south east! I have never sailed a blaze but like the look of them, i am obviously a little biased as i sail a 300, but i have to say it is the best single handed hiker i have ever owned, massive learning curve but a massive grin factor! ------------- |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 3:52pm
Not really: they're a quite different style of boat to my way of thinking. The 300 is based on 70s Moth design and is pretty light, the Blaze owes more to pre amalgamation 14s and is less light. For me the 300 is just a delight to sail. I wouldn't say its very much easier than a 600 though really. |
Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 3:53pm
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sent you a PM ------------- http://www.blym.org.uk/ - BLYM http://www.blym.org.uk/hydrs/index.htm - Hertfordshire Sailing team Uk-Cherub 2644 Laser 4000 -4089 |
Posted By: hardinguk
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 4:47pm
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Thanks for everything so far. If I want to get on the water by March it may have to be one of the club Lasers to begin with. Bough Beech SC and Hastings SC are not too far from me in East Sussex and have RS300s so I have just sent each club an email to see if anyone there can give me a go one weekend. The Blaze looks an option but again none at present club. There are RS600s but learning the trapeze might be too much so soon back in the saddle. ------------- Jnr Snipe Worlds Snipe Nationals |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 5:14pm
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Harding if you want a test sail you can get one through the rs300 owners club they will arange it all for you, i wouldnt of thought you would have to travel far. www.rs300.org.uk ------------- |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 6:12pm
Come to BBSC we've got all the classes mentioned a fairly regular 300, blaze and rs 600 fleet if you want to check it out. We also have an abundance of lasers but my vote would be for the 300 as it's a great boat. I think the south east rs300 rep is based at bbsc anyway. If you want me to show you around PM i'm always there. ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: marcus3292
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 6:59pm
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try the phantom, ever growing fleets, 70 odd for nats, eastern serise racing, top blokes, great weekends racing and drinking. boats a cracker too, if you fancy a spin mine let me know the offers there |
Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 28 Jan 08 at 7:12pm
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The 300 is a cracker, definately the most lively and responsive of it's type and very rewarding when you get it right. Also worth looking at a Blaze or a Vareo ------------- RS600 1001 |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 29 Jan 08 at 7:20pm
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Don't forget a Rooster 8.1 (although you are a bit light, I am 5KG underweight apparently). The Blaze is good to sail it just needs a little bit of wind to get it moving. Once you can hike on the racks you will leave most other similar single handers behind (Laser, Phantom et al). If you have the time get a Blaze as it reqrd time in the boat. If not get an 8.1, easy and lots of bang for your buck. I have an 8.1 because I dont have the time for the Blaze any more but when I do I will be getting another one. Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 29 Jan 08 at 7:25pm
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ratface is selling his rs300 if that what you are looking for. having just made the transition from laser to rs300 i feel failry qualified to tell you about the learning curve. IT IS STEEP. but in the ligher breezes it is fantastic just gliding past other boats, and in the breeze, even though i capsize most windy gybes and in waves etc, i come off the water with a huge grin on my face. pm if you want any more info/ have questions. tom ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 29 Jan 08 at 7:32pm
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Steeping back in after a while out, if your not overly concerned about swimming not finishing the 300 is a great boat. However I'd be tempted to go for a phantom or a Laser 8.1 for your first year back, you'll spend more time thinking tactics not swimming technique and will make quicker progress, then maybe the 300 1-2 seasons back in. ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 29 Jan 08 at 8:53pm
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thinking about your situation this might be good advice. on the other hand, if you can pick a few days to start with where its say 8mph or so, you could get to grips with it. i would try all the boats suggested and make up your own mind (is you go on http://www.rs300.org.uk - www.rs300.org.uk there is (or will soon be) a test sail section where someone near you lets you use their boat. in sure the blaze, phantom etc will also have a similar policy. how heavy are you? as someone at our club used to be at the back of the fleet in a laser standard rig. they then got an old phantom and it was the same story. now that he has a new phantom and can keep it upright (nearly all the time) he is difficult to beat on the water in my 300 (im still new though). tom ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: hardinguk
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 11:27am
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All good advice - thanks I am around 82kgs, 5' 11" My club has some pool boats inc 3 Lasers so I am starting off in one of these to find my feet again and get to know the reservoir/race practice. I am looking at sailing something like the 300 in conjunction when I can play around in lighter winds and gradually increase racing/wind conditions over the season.
------------- Jnr Snipe Worlds Snipe Nationals |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 12:58pm
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Good size and weight for the 300! ------------- |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 6:05pm
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Harding the 300 is the boats for you, if you dontlike it you will never have any problem selling it as well! ------------- |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 6:13pm
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at that weight you will be about right for a B rig. i know ratface is selling a relatively low spec 300 (around £2000i think). it would be great for a starting boat and will only need a continous kicker and enw sial in order to make it race ready. if you do race the laser in conjunction with the 300 then it will be fine. just dont push it too high up the wind too early (i made that mistake and ended up with ripped sail, broken boom bolt, lump on my head and a beaten pride but in lighter breezes when you can muscle it down f you tack/gybe wrong its amazingly good fun ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: John Wilson
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 7:34pm
I sail a 300 without any problem and I'm currently around your height & weight, I started far lighter though and still found it ok, mainly because the kicker is so effective. Weight isn't critical, there is a huge competitive weight range. I sailed a few classes before I moved into the 300 but have never found anything like it. You will learn from it. It's impossible not to! This may sound confusing but after a season you should see exactly what I mean. You also have the club lasers, so this gives you the chance to mix and match (eg f1-4 300 then f5+ laser) as you get used to the boat. The test sail might also be an idea, but make sure you choose a good day, with a nice f2 if possible. |
Posted By: hardinguk
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 9:44pm
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I have just secured an RS300 - mid 400s by private sale - pick it up when I get back from skiing. Thanks again for all the advice and no doubt I will see some of you on the circuit once I have got to grips with her. The smiles have already started....
------------- Jnr Snipe Worlds Snipe Nationals |
Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 10:02pm
awesome, will you be able to go to the winters at grafham? have people show how its done aswell as not how to do it  im going if i havent sold mine by then, just got to get there...  is it a purple boat?!?!?!?!? ------------- http://www.blym.org.uk/ - BLYM http://www.blym.org.uk/hydrs/index.htm - Hertfordshire Sailing team Uk-Cherub 2644 Laser 4000 -4089 |
Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 12:28pm
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Nice one - you won't regret it! ------------- RS600 1001 |