Dinghy show twist
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Topic: Dinghy show twist
Posted By: landlocked
Subject: Dinghy show twist
Date Posted: 21 Jan 08 at 10:39pm
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Ok Dinghy show who's going i'm going to try to get the saturday off work to go and seeing as i'm getting married this year (god help me) i thought it might be nice seeing as i count many of the people on this forum, some of whom i've met many that i have not, friends i thought we could meet up and have a bit of an stag do at the bar what do you reckon
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Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 21 Jan 08 at 10:48pm
Sounds like a good plan  Nigel ------------- I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg) Graduate 2530 'Galaxy' |
Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 1:04am
meh...it's a couple of weeks before my 18th 
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Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 7:38am
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It was my 18th last friday hehe ------------- Laser 184084 Tasar 3501 RS600 698 RS600 782 |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 8:03am
I'll nearly be 20 ... Your round Landlocked ?
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Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 8:31am
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I'm going I think, but I'm only 16 . ------------- 49er GBR735 (for sale) - Rutland SC |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 8:49am
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I'm geting maried 30th August this year! God knows why?? ------------- |
Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 8:58am
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I'm there! ------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 6:13pm
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I'll be there, just let me know the time, you know which stand to find me at. ------------- |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 6:21pm
^ What he said! ------------- |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 6:27pm
| I think I've been volunteered for the King George SC stand- the perils of sailing with the commodore. |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 6:59pm
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i think ill be there, not sure which day yet. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 7:41pm
be there on the sat with Villan, then doing the annual BLYM laser open on the sunday
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 8:04pm
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I'll be there both days on the whsa stand, yay...
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 8:24pm
Minus however long you are " borrowed " for! ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 22 Jan 08 at 9:52pm
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uhoh, sounds ominous...
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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 23 Jan 08 at 5:20pm
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I'll probably be there on the Saturday. Might do the BLYM Laser event, on the sunday, so thats the reason. ------------- |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 23 Jan 08 at 5:55pm
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If you don't know the answer to that question I suggest you don't do it ... ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Jan 08 at 10:36pm
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Yippee this sounds like fun, after the second lager can we all roll around the
floor rucking with each other? Perhaps have a wedgey contest, then all go over to the Cherub stand and vom over the display boat.. Kewell Count me right in.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 23 Jan 08 at 10:40pm
| I think we all want to know when GRF is going to be at the show... that's when to avoid... |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 8:58am
Ha cheers rick, you could put god knows why in to 2 contexts one "God only knows why i would want to" or "God KNOWS why i am marrying this lovely lady" ------------- |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 9:36am
I hope it's the latter ------------- |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 9:46am
| Or indeed why she is marrying you.... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 4:22pm
Nope, I shall head straight for the Pink Ladies on the MPS stand and abuse them, then purely out of curiosity you understand I might just go find what all the fuss is about with the Crap Handling Ever Righting Useless Boat just in case I've totally misjudged it. Then I shall visit dumb and dumberer to see wether the Van Der Craft mob have suddenly realised their mistake and placed them in a straight jacket rather than let them talk prospective clients out of buying the 3000.(that is if they can prize dumberers tongue from the shroud that he licked and got stuck) Then I shall have a look at the 12ft skiff bit in much the same light as the Cherubim, I shall glance querulously at some of the old people smelling ever so slightly of stale urine surrounding the Symmettric boats whilst wondering how they are going to engineer the zimmer frame/spinnaker pole transfer system. I will not go near the RS stand this year for they have sold out to polyethylene and shouldgostraightohell.. Unless of course I spot someone I know to yell abuse at. I am also going to have a second look at the Vortex as a possible means to crack single hand trapezing on the nights when the crew cannot get unhandcuffed from his bed. (She often forgets where she put the key and has to go to work) My ultimate quest chequebook in hand is to seek the Holy Grail of all coastal club sailors, which I sincerely hope will be found on the Alto boat stand, there I shall just stare open mouthed rocking forward and back dribbling ever so slightly.. |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:03pm
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I don't know that the Alto is 1. going be at the dinghy and 2. worth dribbling over ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:15pm
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Well maybe, but it looks pretty good in the photos. I realise that many 5o5 ers are gnashing their teeth at this, but hey, you never know, you might like it. |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:30pm
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She wouldnt be if she found out how many boats i have got that she doesnt know about! ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:43pm
Gnash their teeth they may, they can go join all those other old people wafting stale urine about like 470 sailors.. No modern thinking fellow such as I, is ever going to thrash about sticking poles in various unmentionable places whilst the rest of the world has moved on. I've even seen the odd 470 sailor spill his coffee and soak his rolled up copy of the yachting times as some incompetent crew fellow tripped up with that pole thing. He even had to shift slightly in his armchair, imagine that. |
Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:47pm
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Ah but G.R.F you forget about owen at the club, he whips everyone around the course, including you, in a 470 with his extremely elderly dad with no spinny or trapeze. He may be old but you are aproaching that sort of age i hear
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Posted By: theycallmegod
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:52pm
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GRF just out of interest- which boats do you actually like? You seem to enjoy sl*gging off everyone else, so put your cards on the table so that we can rip them up. (If you'll excuse the laboured metaphor) |
Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 5:54pm
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This should be interesting..............................................> ;> ------------- Laser 184084 Tasar 3501 RS600 698 RS600 782 |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 6:04pm
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You are brave son! Prepare for a public ass slapping ------------- |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 6:40pm
But it has features, such as the rotating pole, that have been tried (4000, 400) and subsequently discarded as providing little real benifit. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 7:36pm
Aah, I do so like it when God speaks to me, gives me such a sense of psychosis. So now what Boats do I like? I do like the MPS and enjoyed wrestling with it, it is imho a flawed design but nevertheless offers a simple layout that is easier for the newcomer to understand albeit it impossible to be able to sail from scratch. Had I been ten years younger I'm sure I'd have dialed it, but even then my home beach is not the perfect environment for such a boat, had there been something similar with at the very least a kick up rudder it might be more manageable. I also enjoyed my confidence being restored in the Laser 3000 not much wrong with it other than its size. I like the RS400 if I were looking for a two man hiker. It was love at first site with the 29er, but it suffers the same problems the MPS does with regards our beach. The RS500 I still like and will continue with if the Alto doesn't prove to be all I expect of it, but we're right at the crew weight limit so suffer as a result. You can't help but be impressed by a 49er, but when virtually the entire Olympic fleet demonstrate in front of you just how ludicrously difficult they are in dead flat water, what possible hope could we have usng one on ours. So that leaves the only real performance thoroughbred that's been tested over the years, but is sadly very dated, the 505. Funny the guy who used to win loads of stuff in five ohs back in the day was on the phone to me today and I forgot to mention this development, so seriously if that Alto does what it says on the tin, they wont see our backsides for spray this upcoming season, I shall have to get some new buttless chaps to celebrate. |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 8:31pm
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Posted By: theycallmegod
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 9:00pm
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So why do you have such a grudge against 'extreme' boats such as the 12foot skiff etc... |
Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 10:13pm
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Yeah good point- you call 470s girly and faffing around with a symmetric pole yet you sail a 500 anyway! Not exactly the most high performance boat around! ------------- Neil 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Jan 08 at 10:26pm
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It's not a "grudge" it's the Irony of young twirps over canvassing a 12ft sled
to the point it tail walks uncontrollably just at the point you might think it would become fun. To me that sort of adrenaline requirement is far better served by windsurfing or kite surfing. You go faster, or jump higher, all the stuff the young "dudes" appear o be trying to emulate in their over powered out of control antics.. So its wide open to ridicule, well in my book at least. The 470? Its an interclub thing, they are a way easier boat to sail than a 500, why they even train chimps to use them. |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 12:00am
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Your book, my dear Grumpf, seems to be published in a very limited edition. I'm sure you'll rejoice at that fact while the rest of us will be relieved that there aren't too many like you in the world. ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 12:09am
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One is enough for this forum but it would be very very very boring without the legend that is G.R.F. If i see him at the dinghy show i will buy him a beer! I wil look aroung the cherub stand for you! I'm sure i wont miss you GRF you will probably be the only one that stands more then 4ft ------------- |
Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 1:19am
Rather a young twerp than an old fart. Double handed boat equals a team effort. Wind surfing and kite surfing look fun but rather solitary and lonely. I don't think I’ll go back to sailing a single hander anytime soon! Enjoy your excuse for a revolution, aka the "Alto".
I hear they take degenerates for day trips 500's, it makes nice change from "the staring window". ------------- Ross If you can't carry it, don't sail it! |
Posted By: Chew my RS
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 8:44am
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Between the bouts of dementia, I think Grumpy actually makes many good and vaild points. If the sport wants to attract people from outside of traditional sailing families, then much of what he says should be carefully considered. Anyway, I shall be at the show on the Saturday so might see some of you there. Mine's a guinness. ------------- http://www.sailns14.org - http://www.sailns14.org - The ultimate family raceboat now available in the UK |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 9:05am
Well that's certainly true. I think if I examine what is most enjoyable from this new found enthusiasm is the team effort, when that boom comes over smacks us both in the forehead and we eventually surface, we can check each other out for signs of bleeding..
So yes in all seriousness a fair point, but you can windsurf and or kitesurf alongside a chum, my crew and I have been windsurfing in waves together and or racing against each other on long windsurfing boardsfor thirty years, but probably have not enjoyed each others company more than recently when crammed into that dodgy little boat. But I would say this to you young "twerps" (thanks for correcting my spelling) if, as you so obviously do, enjoy your sailing, dont live through your lives without trying windsurfing, it's a totally different experience, one not to be missed. |
Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 9:28am
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Funnily enough Grumpf i was a sailor and not a windsurfer then some of my sailing mates who also windsurf invited me to go to dahab with them for a week and get some tuition, now i have just bought my own kit. So you definately speak a fair point, windsurfing is worth trying although you need to stick at it for a bit as the first bit is REALLY hard and it doesn't seem worth it then you start planing and it does seem worth it ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk">  BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 12:22pm
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OMG I have just got to get that outfit..
Si Reynolds will be so pleased with it. It'll be a lot smarter than the last thing I saw him in. 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 4:11pm
Hmm but not so many of us have a penchant for sailing in Pampers and Fluffy Bunny slippers and a yellow rash vest. But nothing surprises us about the goings on over at Whitstable even though there has been an influx of DNA from the DFL'S and the incidence of two headed six fingered cat sailors has reduced, you couldn't let your daughter stray over there in the dark, particularly not with her brother.. Then again there is always the ultimate comparison. Windsurfer in yellow rash vest 
MPS Sailor in yellow rash vest
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Posted By: theycallmegod
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 4:20pm
Way easier to sail? Thats why you don't like the 470, but you don't like 12foot skiff because it's too hard to sail..... You're hurting my mind....  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 4:32pm
You shouldn't have a mind capable of being hurt if you are the omnipresent deity & supreme being and where did I say they are difficult to sail? I've never tried one but they are used by small children who make them look to difficult to sail although that's fairly common, I've watched Olympians in flat water making sailing look damn near impossible.. My concern was the hull length is to short for our particular wave length its been my experience anything shorter than 14ft can have a problem in the Channel where we sail. |
Posted By: theycallmegod
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 4:41pm
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Hmmmmm i think some of the skiffy boys should lend you their boat for an afternoon (and then video it) So if it's only your circumstances that make the 12 impractical then why do you have such a problem with other people sailing them? And whats wrong with B14s? |
Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 5:18pm
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Its not the B14 its the washer women that sail it isn't it GRF
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Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 25 Jan 08 at 6:02pm
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I am a bit of a speed junky but I windsurf and kite surf too and much prefer sailing, what i started first and its a lot more fun, don't know why but it is, although doing huge jumps with a massive kite in lots of wind is pretty fun too ------------- 49er GBR735 (for sale) - Rutland SC |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 7:43pm
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Getting this thing back on track, I am there Saturday as planned. Will be working on a stand. More like volunteering, handing out free stuff!!! ------------- |
Posted By: landlocked
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 7:47pm
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I will definatley be there on the saturday as I have been able to get the time off! I sense a copious amount of ale consumption and drooling ( over boats of course)
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