Any Mac Users Here.
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Topic: Any Mac Users Here.
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Any Mac Users Here.
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 2:31pm
I know it's extremely unlikely, given us Mac folk come from the more
enlightened end of the charisma spectrum and y'all pond dwelling PC victims
dont get why anyway, but there must be someone else suffering with this
damned forum ware...?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 3:56pm
O.M.G.
There must be some other psycho term for it.
I mean the simple word psychosis to describe someone so perverted that
they'd desecrate the finest browser known to man by using it on a retarded
platform..
Speechless
In fact I might have to go and lie down.
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Posted By: iwsmithuk
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
I know it's extremely unlikely, given us Mac folk come from the more enlightened end of the charisma spectrum... |
Yet another field of human endeavour in which G.R.F can claim superiority. Is there any end to his majesterial brilliance!
If you have now gone for a lie down G.R.F please tell us how you're doing it as I'm sure you're doing that better than the rest of us too.
 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 4:58pm
Well I'm sure when I lie down, the world takes a breather..
I'm sorry do I come across as that superior? Good I am.
So now back to evangelism.
Accountancy software? We use something called Hansa runs the entire
business, fully integrated package including CRM along with Sales Order
processing, stock control, nominal etc etc was fully Euro and millenium
compliant back in 98 when we first acquired it.
Nokia? What's a nokia hasn't everyone bought an iphone?
Boot camp enables native direct to processor booting of windoze if you
must, two other software solutions offer both OS's live window to window
switching and one of them actually tested a mac laptop as fastest windoze
dual core for a couple of weeks not long back in time.
So if you're a web creative type you can try both platforms on one
machine side by side if your monitors big enough .
Why am I not surprised this unenlightened environment knows little to
nothing about Macs, aren't y'all lucky a superior being happened along to
grace you with his presence.
And all free of charge at that..
My oh my philanthropy is tough.
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Posted By: iwsmithuk
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
Boot camp enables native direct to processor booting of windoze if you must, two other software solutions offer both OS's live window to window switching and one of them actually tested a mac laptop as fastest windoze dual core for a couple of weeks not long back in time |
Errrm...........
You know that bit in the Simpsons where Marge is talking and all Homer hears is "Blah blah blah blah", often accompanied by small tweeting birds flying around Homers head.....................

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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 5:29pm
I'm going Mac as soon as this laptop dies.
------------- Ross
If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: ptcruiser
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 5:32pm
Don't do it Ross...they are not as great as they are hyped to be.
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 5:41pm
Well they're a damn sight better than any dell with sh*tty Vista or XP on it.
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If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: ptcruiser
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 5:44pm
XP SP2 is excellent and very stable. Having looked after over a 100+ Macs and 600 PCs, I speak from experience - however it was just some friendly advice - no offense intended.
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 6:03pm
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by Ross
Well they're a damn sight better than any dell with sh*tty Vista or XP on it.
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Agreed. DO NOT BUY VISTA. It's all buggy and rubbish. Being a photographer I like macs, I like the workflow and the performance, i know a few things don't work but it's really easy to install windows on them too so there is no excuse.
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by tgruitt
Originally posted by Ross
Well they're a damn sight better than any dell with sh*tty Vista or XP on it. |
Agreed. DO NOT BUY VISTA. It's all buggy and rubbish. Being a photographer I like macs, I like the workflow and the performance, i know a few things don't work but it's really easy to install windows on them too so there is no excuse.
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Theres nothing wrong with vista! I'm running a dell laptop with a 2ghz duel core processor and 2 gig of ram, i've had not trouble at all with vista (though the laptop did come with vista ultimate) it copes well when running multiple aplications including photoshop, and it plays high res games without too much trouble.
End of the day its a good operating system and its pretty versatile, just dont run the minimum spec. I'll definatly be getting another windows based pc as my next rather than a mac.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by turnturtle
Originally posted by G.R.F
So if you're a web creative type you
can try both platforms on one machine side by side if your monitors big
enough . |
no thanks, and 'web creative types' are the very reason why I invested in
'dreamweaver for dummies'.... |
So if they offered Cherubs for dummies?
Not I suspect that there in reality is any other version.
So then what is it you need here, Mac for dummies?
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 04 Jan 08 at 10:36pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
Well I'm sure when I lie down, the world takes a breather..
I'm sorry do I come across as that superior? Good I am.
So now back to evangelism.
Accountancy software? We use something called Hansa runs the entire business, fully integrated package including CRM along with Sales Order processing, stock control, nominal etc etc was fully Euro and millenium compliant back in 98 when we first acquired it. Nokia? What's a nokia hasn't everyone bought an iphone?
Boot camp enables native direct to processor booting of windoze if you must, two other software solutions offer both OS's live window to window switching and one of them actually tested a mac laptop as fastest windoze dual core for a couple of weeks not long back in time.
So if you're a web creative type you can try both platforms on one machine side by side if your monitors big enough .
Why am I not surprised this unenlightened environment knows little to nothing about Macs, aren't y'all lucky a superior being happened along to grace you with his presence.
And all free of charge at that..
My oh my philanthropy is tough. |
'Thonk.....'
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Posted By: ptcruiser
Date Posted: 05 Jan 08 at 9:20am
There are plus's and minus's to both - however macs are being hyped as being problem free and that you need never buy any software for it as it has everything you need out of the box. This simply is not true.
The latest imacs have msoffice and mac iwork preloaded - but just like most PCs...they are just 30 day trials. As with PCs, macs have integrated photo and video manipulation software...but if you are serious about either - you will want to buy third party software. They crash...same as PCs. Not so many viruses around for them - but that is because macs amount to less than 10% of the personal computers in the world - so the idiots that devise viuruses don't bother.
So, its worth keeping an open mind - especially if you are the sort of person who enjoys a variety of software and 'tinkering', because getting Apple spares and doing it yourself is a nightmare.
Still....they do look nice (apart from the mini)
...but then so do some of the new Sony offerings 
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 05 Jan 08 at 2:30pm
Look, WHY you would want to pay for software is beyond me.
Everything is better when its free .. Especially operating systems.
Go Linux!!
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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 05 Jan 08 at 2:33pm
at the end of the day they both display the p*rn your downloading the same way!
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Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 05 Jan 08 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by Villan
Go Linux!!
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+1
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 6:33pm
So not a single Mac User?
I hate to say it folk, but this is a fairly unique precedent in this forum
warriors history, I've been on boards were they are few, but never where
there are none at all.
What does that say about this group?
Nothing good, that's for sure
No wonder the headmaster doesn't bother to bring the software up to
date.
Then again school kids don't use Macs either, there's a clue all in itself.
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
So not a single Mac User?
I hate to say it folk, but this is a fairly unique precedent in this forum
warriors history, I've been on boards were they are few, but never where
there are none at all.
What does that say about this group?
Nothing good, that's for sure
No wonder the headmaster doesn't bother to bring the software up to
date.
Then again school kids don't use Macs either, there's a clue all in itself.
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*Puts hand up*
I do.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 6:56pm
So that's just the two of us then?
I assume you have access to a PC as well then.
Or do you just not bother with long links and images.
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:02pm
why oh why does a SAILING forum get gummed up with all this techie speak????? its just confusing. epoxy and filler i can understand, but electricity, whats that?
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
So that's just the two of us then?
I assume you have access to a PC as well then.
Or do you just not bother with long links and images. |
Yep I have both.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:16pm
Yep I just checked you out, studying photography and looking to do a
masters degree, so you will inevitably need enlightenment.
I used to teach photography if ever you get stuck on anything old school/
need advice, dont suppose you still have to cover traditional stuff.
Advice costs nothing after all..
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
why oh why does a SAILING forum get gummed up
with all this techie speak????? its just confusing. epoxy and filler i can
understand, but electricity, whats that? |
Was it your head or your harness hook that got itself buried in that 600?
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
Yep I just checked you out, studying photography and looking to do a
masters degree, so you will inevitably need enlightenment.
I used to teach photography if ever you get stuck on anything old school/
need advice, dont suppose you still have to cover traditional stuff.
Advice costs nothing after all.. |
I'm not studying anymore. My course finished in September, I achieved a distinction. I was going to study a masters but have decided getting out there and doing it would be more worthwhile. Yes, I can use medium format and 5x4 cameras with tranny, I'm not a complete digital kid.
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:31pm
I use my Canon AE1 and a darkroom. Old school enough
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If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by Ross
I use my Canon AE1 and a darkroom. Old school enough
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I had a Rollieflex 35mm and have a Canon T70. Used to have a Centon K100 too. Ahh I love the smell of the darkroom, but not the smell of sepia toning.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by tgruitt
Originally posted by G.R.F
Yep I just checked you out, studying photography and
looking to do a
masters degree, so you will inevitably need enlightenment.
I used to teach photography if ever you get stuck on anything old school/
need advice, dont suppose you still have to cover traditional stuff.
Advice costs nothing after all.. | I'm not studying anymore. My
course finished in September, I achieved a distinction. I was going to
study a masters but have decided getting out there and doing it would be
more worthwhile. Yes, I can use medium format and 5x4 cameras with
tranny, I'm not a complete digital kid. |
Well done and yes you're right, nothing like experience, and I can see
from your site you're already on your way, some nice stuff, good luck.
Old School?
Er no Canon is lame sorry although an AE1 is nearly respectable.
Old School?
VN Plate camera, no range finder, no exposure metre, judge your
distance and exposure from your head and you got only two plates for
your assignment when I passed my "apprenticeship" there were no Uni
courses back then.
Oh and cap off and cap on for long exposures of big groups with the
shutter set on "B" with a bloody great Flash bulb fired at the end of the
exposure..
Old school enough?
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by G.R.F
Originally posted by tgruitt
Originally posted by G.R.F
Yep I just checked you out, studying photography and
looking to do a
masters degree, so you will inevitably need enlightenment.
I used to teach photography if ever you get stuck on anything old school/
need advice, dont suppose you still have to cover traditional stuff.
Advice costs nothing after all.. | I'm not studying anymore. My
course finished in September, I achieved a distinction. I was going to
study a masters but have decided getting out there and doing it would be
more worthwhile. Yes, I can use medium format and 5x4 cameras with
tranny, I'm not a complete digital kid. |
Well done and yes you're right, nothing like experience, and I can see
from your site you're already on your way, some nice stuff, good luck.
Old School?
Er no Canon is lame sorry although an AE1 is nearly respectable.
Old School?
VN Plate camera, no range finder, no exposure metre, judge your
distance and exposure from your head and you got only two plates for
your assignment when I passed my "apprenticeship" there were no Uni
courses back then.
Oh and cap off and cap on for long exposures of big groups with the
shutter set on "B" with a bloody great Flash bulb fired at the end of the
exposure..
Old school enough? |
Thats pretty good! I like that. I use the cap on/off technique quite a bit for night shots. I use all Canon equipment, I have tried Nikon but it just doesn't feel right. Although I do like one of the old Nikon film cameras, FM2 is it?
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 8:10pm
LOL, I just take pictures. I have had some really good results with AE1.
Whats it called when you print a picture on a big piece of sheet metal?
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If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 8:11pm
Originally posted by Ross
LOL, I just take pictures. I have had some really good results
with AE1.Whats it called when you print a picture on a big piece of sheet
metal?
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Panel beating?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by tgruitt
Thats pretty good! I like that.I use the cap on/off technique quite a bit for
night shots. I use all Canon equipment, I have tried Nikon but it just
doesn't feel right. Although I do like one of the old Nikon film cameras,
FM2 is it? |
It wasn't much fun at the time, having to shout at everyone when you
were 18 just out of school and getting all the late night jobs so the chief
photographer could bunk off..
Had and used loads of nice cameras, culminating in a Hasselblad set up. I
had the lot knicked 500C SuperWide C, Rollei Wide Angle (The Best Press
Camera you could use)Rolleiflex. Sinar P (which was recovered I still have
it up in the attic somewhere.
I gave it all up, just bought a Nikon F4s which was the tastiest motordrive
of the period (91-2) and now I occasionally jerk around with a D70 is it I
can't keep up with all the numbers, Nikon 6 mega pixel froma couple of
years back when they were the fastest refresh rate, I believe Canon
currently holds that crown. I never like Canon always too light, I like a bit
of bulk to a camera, always used to, one of the key problems with quick
action stuff was always camera shake so the heavier the camera the more
resilient I always reckoned it was to being jarred by heavy trigger action
which you do when you get excited... well I do.
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by Ross
LOL, I just take pictures. I have had some really good results with AE1.
Whats it called when you print a picture on a big piece of sheet metal?
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This is effectively a form of etching achieved by using a photo resist emulsion painted onto the metal sheet - or any other medium.
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 06 Jan 08 at 9:12pm
bloody hell, gone from techie to camera geeks. Christ GRF your good at taking people off topic.
------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 07 Jan 08 at 12:17am
Originally posted by G.R.F
Originally posted by tgruitt
Thats pretty good! I like that.I use the cap on/off technique quite a bit for
night shots. I use all Canon equipment, I have tried Nikon but it just
doesn't feel right. Although I do like one of the old Nikon film cameras,
FM2 is it? |
It wasn't much fun at the time, having to shout at everyone when you
were 18 just out of school and getting all the late night jobs so the chief
photographer could bunk off..
Had and used loads of nice cameras, culminating in a Hasselblad set up. I
had the lot knicked 500C SuperWide C, Rollei Wide Angle (The Best Press
Camera you could use)Rolleiflex. Sinar P (which was recovered I still have
it up in the attic somewhere.
I gave it all up, just bought a Nikon F4s which was the tastiest motordrive
of the period (91-2) and now I occasionally jerk around with a D70 is it I
can't keep up with all the numbers, Nikon 6 mega pixel froma couple of
years back when they were the fastest refresh rate, I believe Canon
currently holds that crown. I never like Canon always too light, I like a bit
of bulk to a camera, always used to, one of the key problems with quick
action stuff was always camera shake so the heavier the camera the more
resilient I always reckoned it was to being jarred by heavy trigger action
which you do when you get excited... well I do. |
I have always wanted a Hassleblad, I love the square format ones. I like the Mamiya too. My Canon is heavier than any similar Nikon I have picked up, also with a 400mm IS lens strapped to the front that adds a few kilos, the Image Stabilizer really helps for sailing photography.
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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 09 Jan 08 at 9:32pm
Woo - I can't believe I missed a Mac/PC flamewar on a sailing website...
I'm firmly in the Mac camp, and cant say this forum bothers me, but then there are better browsers than Safari out there...
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