want a RS but not sure it's suitable
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Topic: want a RS but not sure it's suitable
Posted By: Jacko
Subject: want a RS but not sure it's suitable
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 3:32pm
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Hi, Hopefully someone can help, my girlfriend and I have been sailing about 6 months (girlfriend slightly more) a mirror dinghy on an estuary, our combined weight is prob no more than 21 stone. We want to get a new boat and really fancy one from the RS range. We are looking to spend around £2000. We want a boat that we will develop into and get into raceing (fast :) would this be a suitable boat for us on what I've said above? Any thoughts really appreciated |
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Posted By: Chew my RS
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 4:11pm
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You'd suit an RS200 or a Vision, but you'll struggle to find either for less than £3,500. A Tasar might be a good alternative, you can pick up a decent one for £2k and they are the right size for you, quite quick and don't have the hassle of a conventional spinnaker. Or a National 12, which is also suitable for your weight, quite quick, doesn't have a kite but is fairly tippy (but actually the RS200 is the most stable boat in all the world). . ------------- http://www.sailns14.org - http://www.sailns14.org - The ultimate family raceboat now available in the UK |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 4:23pm
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Definately try the Tasar, they were designed for male-female crews.
The main thing to think about is what boats are sailed at your club. Don't buy a Tasar (or whatever) if you'll be the only one every weekend. Unless you want to concentrate on the open circuit! If the club has a decent fleet of 200s, go with it. You can't enjoy getting better each month if you havent got another similar boat to gauge yourself against. |
Posted By: Jacko
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 5:23pm
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Thanks everyone for all these speedy replies-getting some good info here. Seems your right about not getting an RS 200 in budget. But have found a few RS 600 and 800s in budget, I assumed these were bigger faster and more expensive etc versions, what's the difference, would that not be suitable at all for us? as after visiting local sailing club seems there were quite a few RS's. Thanks all again Jack |
Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 5:47pm
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The 600's a singlehanded boat with a trapeze, and not very stable (from what I've heard, I've never sailed one) and the 800 is a doublehander with 2 trapezes - it's a really nice boat but it's pretty advanced with quite a lot of sail area. I'd love to know where you found one in budget though - I've yet to find one for much less than £4000!
------------- RS800 GBR848 Weston SC |
Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 6:00pm
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Well to be honest you may find the 800 a bit to hard if your coming out of a mirror! Yeah for 2k a 3000, Buzz, Tasar etc may be a good choice. ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 6:12pm
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It might be worth hanging onto the Mirror over the winter, and then visiting the dinghy show in the spring. There are hundreds of different dinghies out there that might suit you, from Miracles (another Jack Holt design a little like a racier Mirror) through Fireflies (another boat where there are many male/female combinations) or GP14's to the more modern designs. The advantage of the older designs is that you have a wider choice of 2nd hand boats, but won't get the simplicity of an asymmetric spinnaker. Go along, arrange to try them out and see which suits you best. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 6:26pm
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I would say buzz/200/3000 all are friendly classes. I will now be biased and really recommend the buzz, great boat, friendly class ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk">  BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: DiscoBall
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 6:46pm
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I started in National 12s with a girlfriend at the time, with relatively little dinghy experience - I heard a lot of the 'too tippy' comments from the owners of other classes we tried out but in hindsight it was the best decision. The early learning curve can certainly be quite steep but you'll find you're boat handling will progress pretty quickly, £2000 should give you a good choice of boats that'll be very competitive a club level and its a good class for your weight and for estuary sailing. see: www.national12.org |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 05 Nov 07 at 9:22pm
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Firefly I reccommend, but have a look round at the boat show as suggested, talk to some of the classes. ------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Jacko
Date Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 9:48am
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Thanks everyone, boat show and testing it is. I found the RS's around the £2000 mark on boats and outboards. |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 5:33pm
RS800 around 2 grand?! Sounds too good to be true...  ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: pondscum
Date Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 7:25pm
| Lark? They can be quite reasonably priced and very tricky to keep close to in my 200 and would suit a lower weight crew. |
Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 8:39pm
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Scorpion, no idea on price though... ------------- |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 10:47pm
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Weird to say you want to buy an RS ... but not say what kind of boat you want. RS make pretty much one of everything and they're mostly pretty good, but there's plenty of competition for everything they do make. Like as you wouldn't decide to buy a Ford then decide which model; work out what kind of boat you want then look at the options. Which RS did you fancy? Coming from a mirror, it's NOT an RS800 I assure you (even if it did cost £2k!)
------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 07 Nov 07 at 7:06am
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I would say the 3000 is a good bet, you can get a good boat for under £2k and they are near indestructible, providing you are not too heavy, they are not too bad on handicap in all conditions except the really light stuff. D.Hollands B14 709 ------------- Laser 184084 Tasar 3501 RS600 698 RS600 782 |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 15 Nov 07 at 7:23pm
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from a mirror the best boat in the RS range is the 200, but as said earlier, a bit pricey. if you work out what you want from the boat then look at the options it will be a lot easier. if you want a boat with a trapeze (the crew dangling from a wire to get more righting moment) i would suggest a laser 3000 (now built and sold buy someone else (not laser)), easy boat to learn in but has quite an exciting ride when it gets windy. If you wanted a hiking boat i would suggest the 200 as it has the best open circuit and you are more likely to have a fleet to race against. It is also a very nice boat to sail too. if you dont want a spinnaker then perhaps a national 12 or tasar or if Chew My RS turns up on this thread im sure he will launch off on a sales pitch about the NS14. However i there are other fleets at your club see if you can beg/borrow/steal a go in one to compare them. then pick the one you like most. anoter good place to compare boats is the dinghy show in alexandra palace in march. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |