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After a Topper

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Topic: After a Topper
Posted By: Delphina
Subject: After a Topper
Date Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 11:24pm
I'm currently sailing a Topper and thinking of maybe getting a bigger boat next year. I'll be 16 then, any recommendations? I was thinking maybe a 4.7, maybe a Laser>>, maybe a magno, my dad was looking at 29ers but i don't thinks thats going to happen   i'd quite like a trapeze boat. any ideas? opinions? .

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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 19 Oct 07 at 1:26am
We might need a little more information that that! What do you want from you boat/class?

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Ross
If you can't carry it, don't sail it!


Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 19 Oct 07 at 8:08am
And also do you want to be a lone sailor or sail with someone else

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 19 Oct 07 at 8:28am
Most Topper sailors at my club see to graduate to 29ers, but you must have two of you who are going to campaign it. A 4.7 is no advance on a Topper, but you might want to consider a Radial as a singlehander. If you're not going to stay within the RYA youth class/squad boats then of course the choice is limitless!


Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 19 Oct 07 at 9:08am
Have a go in a Europe I think there nice

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Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 19 Oct 07 at 5:37pm

Yeah if your going to be 16 you'll be too old for a 4.7 anyway, 2 questions:

  • How much do you weigh?
  • How bigs the place you sail?

And if you want to advance from a topper how about the Laser Radial, Byte CII, europe etc etc. Also who would you sail with and how experienced are you?



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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 9:13am
Originally posted by sailor_420

Yeah if your going to be 16 you'll be too old for a 4.7 anyway

What we have some serious oldies in our 4.7 fleet at Lancing then - it is seen as an adult boat at our club for the lightweights. They now sail 4.7s rather than Streakers.

Delphina sails at Lancing which is as big an area as you can get. We have Laser 2s that she can borrow and if she is very nice to me then she can borrow my RS200 tomorrow. Either class would be good.

Then we have a couple of Laser 3000s - that could be another cheap option. But is your Dad is feeling rich then the RS500 looks nice.

I would not go for the 29er just yet as they are a bit unstable especially when launching.

p.s Whatever you do keep the Topper for when it is windy.



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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764


Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 9:26am
What about a 420?It's got a trapeze and you can sail it with elodie. Good idea heh!

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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764


Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 10:49am

Yeah the 420s are good boats if you want a trapeze boat and they can range from £1000 - £6000 depending on age etc etc...About the 4.7 thing i was talking about the circuit, 16 is the age where most people will move onto the radial or even younger, i think for the 4.7 the weight range is 50 - 60kgs and radial is 60 - 70 kgs or around those marks. At my club there are only 14 and 15 year olds in the 4.7s, then 15 and 16 are in radials or even standards.



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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 11:30am
Originally posted by Contender443

What about a 420?It's got a trapeze and you can sail it with elodie. Good idea heh!


Elodie
You've been playing with Daddy's laptop again!!


LOL


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Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 5:17pm
Lol on forum family arguments

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RS600 988


Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 8:18pm

I'd certainly regard the 4.7 as a step up from the Topper - more precise and quicker. Despite what's said on the forum about it, I've had a lot of fun in 4.7's. Plus, if you find it a bit underpowered sometimes, you can easily switch rigs to a Radial or even a 7.1. You might find a secondhand boat with all the options.

If you're considering a two-person boat then you must get a try of one of the Laser 3000's at your club. Easy-peasy for an asymmetric but lots of fun and even as a lightweight you'll be able to drive it hard. While you're about it, get your 3k's to join the 3k class association and come to our opens!



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Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 21 Oct 07 at 9:25am
If you are over 55Kgs I would suggest going straight to the Radial.

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Posted By: Delphina
Date Posted: 26 Oct 07 at 8:33pm

thanks guys! Loads of boats :D Ok, now I'm thinking:

  • 420 (with Elodie maybe..?),
  • 4.7 or Radial? I'm 55kg - which would be better?
  • Maybe 500, need to research it a bit more


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Topper 34062
Pico 7110
http://www.lancingsc.org.uk - LSC


Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 26 Oct 07 at 9:01pm

At 55 Kgs I would go for the Radial rather than the 4.7. I went to my first international events at 55 Kgs...

 



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Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 26 Oct 07 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by Delphina

thanks guys! Loads of boats :D Ok, now I'm thinking:

  • 420 (with Elodie maybe..?),
  • 4.7 or Radial? I'm 55kg - which would be better?
  • Maybe 500, need to research it a bit more

 

I have all those boats



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Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 26 Oct 07 at 10:12pm

Oh also as i have experienced all the boats i would recommend the 420 over the 500 if you were going to sail a 2 person boat and Radial over the lot. When i sailed 420s i thought they were the best but even when i sailed the radial for the first time i instantly loved it (that was in a F6 gusting F7 so was very fast as I'm 50kgs). I do prefer the laser and it has improved my sailing skills enormously in the 3 months Ive had it. I really like it and now I'm selling the 420 because i dont have the time to sail it....plus lasers are a hell of a lot cheaper for a decent one than 420s.

But at the end of the day the choice is yours.



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