Rope Self Tackers
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Rope Self Tackers
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Subject: Rope Self Tackers
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 2:55pm
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Want a self tacker on the 14 but dont want the hassle of cutting sails too much and putting a bar in etc. Help would be appreciated Cheers, Alex ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 3:21pm
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Id definantly recomend doing it with a track properly... It took me just a couple of days to do mine in between other jobs and was dead simple despite my silly shaped deck... Ive yet to see a rope system that looks like it would give enough control. If your jibs are overlapping and you dont want to cut them down you could always go for a W track? ------------- |
Posted By: Franco
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 3:51pm
| Buy the 14 parked oposite you last week at POW week! |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 4:29pm
| Never seen one that was any good at all - unless of course you want to be dog slow upwind... IIWY I'd bite the bullet and get the track. |
Posted By: spin cycle
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 6:48pm
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I fitted a 49er jib track to my 14 and it worked fine. Only problem was I could not retract the pole fully for travelling. The morrision10/11 jib also fitted fine on this set up Gav H
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Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 7:15pm
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Told you alex but would you listen ... er no ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 7:41pm
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Right will get a w track i feel. jus the thought of putting holes in my deck wasnt appealing. Cheers, Alex ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 7:49pm
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One of the 3000 class has been experimenting with self tackers to go with the big and roachy, overlapping North jibs. A W track was tried but the sail didn't reliably cross the boat. The continuous curve Mk2 track is reportedly much better. The too-far-forward jib cleat that results from the continuous curve is compensated by use of a clew board on the jib. Ie it's sheeted from slightly in front of the clew with the board providing tension in the roach. I have yet to see it in use mind .
------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 7:51pm
| What is a W track? |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 8:38pm
| A W track is one where there is a reverse curve in the centre rather than being a continuous radius. The sheet gos slack as it goes past the reverse curve. It enables the track to be a bit further aft. |
Posted By: chrisg
Date Posted: 31 Aug 07 at 11:00am
| who makes/sells w tracks? |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 31 Aug 07 at 11:25am
| You'll need to get a skilled metal basher to bend you one. You should get undrilled track - getting track with predrilled holes in bent will rarely give good results. |
Posted By: I luv Wight
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 12:03pm
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Ronstan sell curved 49er and 29er tracks/cars.
Atum Bom ( which is the current 2 x uk nat champ cherub) has a 49er track. Sometimes ronstan have undrilled track in stock that you can get rolled to the bend. ------------- " rel="nofollow - http://www.bloodaxeboats.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.bloodaxeboats.co.uk Andy P foiling Int Moth GBR3467 Freedom 21 Codling |
Posted By: MpHarris
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 7:01pm
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I've seen boats with both curved tracks (keepin the jib under tension throughout) and some with apparent straight ones, do they all work as good as each other and if not what are the benefits or problems with the different setups? ------------- Cherub 2663 "Sweet Dreams" RS400 451 "IceBerg" |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 7:10pm
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If the track is underbent (ie closer to straight) the car will be pulled towards the centre when you yank on the sheet tension. If the track is overbent the sheet may have to be eased for tacks as sheet tension will pull the car towards the outside of the track. Idealy I think the track is supposed to the slightly underbent... but straight is definantly a bad idea ------------- |