laser or streaker
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Topic: laser or streaker
Posted By: snoo
Subject: laser or streaker
Date Posted: 28 Aug 07 at 6:37pm
| at nearly 11.5 stone would a standard laser be suitable or should I opt for the smaller streaker |
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 28 Aug 07 at 7:50pm
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depends, if you are inland then 11.5 stone is more than enough for a Laser. In waves you may want to consider something else! You may also wish to consider the Byte CII or if ou are feeling really adventurous a Blaze. It does depend on your budget. Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 28 Aug 07 at 7:51pm
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I think i'm going to get in there first because i'm anticipating the classic forum response will be "what do you want from the boat" Do you want large fleet racing or just a boat to sail every once in a while? Or anything between ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 28 Aug 07 at 8:36pm
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Out of the two I'd chose a streaker just because its not a laser and is there for a more interesting class IMHO. ------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: snoo
Date Posted: 29 Aug 07 at 7:10am
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many thanks for your comments the local club is on inland waters sailing both . my previous experience was only for 3 seasons on streakers but then only 10.5 stone I have limited knowlege on racing . There were usually only 2 or 3 streakers racing and was thinking a change but there are no Byte cll or blaze .I would not be traveling to far to race and doing so just for fun realy at 52 maybe to old to get competitive and thought there would be more chance with other local clubs on the laser however there are 2 clubs within 1 hr on the sea , a bit confused with the reply from foaminatthedeck ,what is IMHO ?
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Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 29 Aug 07 at 8:36am
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IMHO = In my humble opinion Snoo, I'd go for a Laser. Always someone to race against. There's a lot of anti-Laser sentiment on this forum (with which I largely agree) but at 11.5 stone you are a good weight for a Laser and there will always be a market for your boat of you change your mind and want to sell it. Don't worry about being 52. Plenty of Laser sailors of good standard this side of the water who beat you in the age stakes. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 07 at 9:07am
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Get a Laser, you will always be able to get spares and sell the boat quickly, they are realativly bomb proof, and most peoples introduction to club/circuit racing. Streaker is a great boat, but the number speak for them selves that is why lasers have sold thousands! ------------- |
Posted By: snoo
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 6:50am
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many thanks snoo |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 9:39am
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At 11.5 Stone I would suggest you go for a Radial... ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 30 Aug 07 at 1:40pm
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My guess would be to go for the Streaker. Not because of Laser slating but I'm guessing that you will enjoy your sailing more. But this really is down to you and fitness levels, commitment etc. Laser is; heavier. more uncomfortable hard on the knees spits you out in a classic death roll dam physical more expensive for age of boat better fleets and racing more opportunity to travel more numerous Streaker is: lighter more comfortable easier on the knees easier to sail - so you can go out / be competitive in more wind a big nationals attendance don't have to lift the rig in and out cheaper for age of boat more gentlemanly sailors :-) ( ducks for cover ) The thing to do is sail both in some breeze. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 11:32am
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If you are inland, have you considered the Solution fron Red Eye, fast, light and controlable with enough sail to keep you going on the light days too.
Andy ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 3:39pm
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Are you not a little biased Andy?...... oh and congratulations!
------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: snoo
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 5:16pm
| I can only thank all for your comments I think I need to take these down to the local club and try to find a mentor . |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 7:44pm
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Not sure my post was that biased, but come to mention it I think the solution is an excellent boat, which fulfils its design brief, is solidlly built, rewards good sailing, but is not imposible to sail. Has high performance, but not difficult for a sitting out single hander. Happy to acknowledge potential bias as current nat champ, but I have sailed loads of different boats from toppers to 18 footers, and it is my favourite sitting out single hander for sailing on restricted waters. My prefered boat if Hunts was 30 miles down the road at Grafham, I would have a Musto Skiff, when wife gets back into sailing, will have either an RS200, N12 or a modern Merlin( if won lottery). My ultimate sail is still the 18, although would love to try a new Cherub or I14. Andy With all bias's now declared. ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 8:20pm
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I was just teasing Andy, the solution is a good little boat, it just needs the PY to be sorted a bit (not too much slower though please).
------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 01 Sep 07 at 10:10pm
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The trouble with PY is sorted to what? The declared number looks like it will come out at about 1070, the trouble is if you make a number honest, then only the good guys will be able to scrape a win, and if you are too free then you get the situation we have at Hunts with a certain class. Which should a new class set its PY to? We had this discussion at the AGM, and it was interesting to hear the arguments from the clubs with new Phantoms, Finns and Merlins, and those who didnt. With PY, you either just accept your number, or go and buy the relevent handicap bandit for your clubs conditions, I hear the Streakers handicap is a little contreversial, although have no first hand knowledge. I must admit that a single class permiting at Hunts, if I sail well, I tend to get a good reult, and vice versa, so argued for no change. Now we have a class association, one will be declared for next year. Andy ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 3:59pm
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hi snoo, im nearly bang on 11 stone and sail on the sea in a full rig laser a lot. i love the racing but the boat is dull and too slow for how much work you need to put in. thats why im moving to a RS 600. for you i would say get a laser and see how it goes because if you dont like it you can always sell it on aterwards, like me. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 6:33pm
We had a streaker out at club this weekend. Beautiful boat even though it was 30 years old. It had obviously been well maintained and it went some when the breeze got up. Plus he beat some of the lasers round the course too  ------------- RS600 988 |