Laser EPS or simular??
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Topic: Laser EPS or simular??
Posted By: Splosh
Subject: Laser EPS or simular??
Date Posted: 08 Aug 07 at 10:09pm
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Hi, Have bin thinking about getting a laser eps but not totally sure. What would any one else say? Is there any other options?
Thanks ------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 08 Aug 07 at 10:38pm
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Why?
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 08 Aug 07 at 10:46pm
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Go for it! See if you can find one to try, and give it a go! They look like cheap easy fun if you dont care about there being no racing for them ( But I beleive someone is trying to bring the circuit back. ) Let us know how you get on! ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 9:39am
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Alternatives to the EPS I believe are: Phantom (good fleet racing, bandit on handicap but you need to be fat to sail one in a blow and expensive to get a competitive boat). Blaze (good fleet racing if you can find some, good on handicap in all but a drifter and can be picked up relative cheap) Vareo (if you fancy a kite, dont know much about these but they are reportedly hard work upwind but a great fun offwind) Solution (thin mans Phantom. Again hard work upwind, great fun offwind, new class and expensive to get in to) Everyone here knows my choice... advice would be to get out there and have a go before you make any choices. ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 10:03am
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I currently have a vortex assy but in light winds its totally boring (and rubish) so i want a boat for those days. Also anyway when it does get windy my boat sits in the dinghy park and i go windsurfing!
------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 10:05am
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Splosh Are you thinking of ditching the Vortex for the EPS or running two boats? The EPS is a bit of an armchair ride. Having done a test sail in one in 2000 I instantly cancelled my order with Laser and bought a Vortex instead. Don't get me wrong, the EPS is fine. But it's no faster thatna standard Laser and because it is vice-free (ropes are all in the right place, rudder grips well, proper centre-main, hiking almost unnecessary) it gets a bit dull to sail. If you are moving on from the Vortex tell us what is wrong with that boat. The Vortex's main problem is that the PY is not favourable in the really light stuff. Other than that, it's a great boat with the assymetric. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 10:42am
So a fast stable light wind boat preff with assy and trap would be what you are after, cos you are going to go blasting on the windsurfer when it gets up? Sounds like you would might want to look at: Blaze (maybe add the assymetric yourself? It's been done before) or MX-Ray (difficult to sail well upwind) Nuts off wind. RS Vareo (I'm not a fan, but they seem to be catching on) These are all no trap but there isn't anything other than a Contender that is a stable single hander trap and it's not known for it's light wind performance. Musto Skiff & RS 700 are problable a little tricky. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 11:29am
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The EPS wouldn't be my choice.
RS300s are nice. |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 12:02pm
yes but tricky. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 12:07pm
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good point Jim, how are they doing price wise these days? The were as rare as hens teeth not so long ago....
------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: runningfree
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 1:12pm
| Id go for it, i was considering the same thing when its light as its cheap and looks ok. How much do you weigh and what your budget? |
Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 5:49pm
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I weigh about 65kg. Buget wise... i would have to sell my vortex ------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
and get about £2100+/- abit. Then repay parental debts, about £800ish. So i'd have about £1300 to spend
Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 5:59pm
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Musto's and 700's are most likely well out the price range. A blaze seems good but i would end up getting a cheaper one, probably not even a x rig does this matter or does the handicap change? Im also not a fan of varios, had a go in a few at Alton water (inculding... The Shed! Mx-ray, havent heard alot about these but look quite good on the computer (havent seen any in real life!?). Thanks for the help, Keep it comin' ------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
) and personally thought they were abit of a 'old mans' boat.Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 10 Aug 07 at 12:31am
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Considered an RS600? They're pretty good in the light stuff and certainly provide a challenge! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 10 Aug 07 at 8:12am
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My brothers got a yellow one (#884). I've had a go on it a few times and had great fun boat but spent more time swimming I reckon i'll keep the vortex over the winter now, and just see what happens Thanks for the help. Mark ------------- RS300 - 346 :D |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 10 Aug 07 at 8:25am
Most Blazes have been converted to the new X (semi soft) rig by now although there are still a few of the original 10.5 rigs out there. Handicap wise it makes no difference (I could be wrong but I think the PY has always been about 1047). The conversion is easy enough all you need to do is find someone willing to part with an old X sail to get you going (they last forever though). Personally if it is for fun and only in the lighter stuff I would use the old 10.5 fully battened sail, the semi soft only really makes a difference when it is blowing. Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |