New ISO Sails
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: New ISO Sails
Posted By: MpHarris
Subject: New ISO Sails
Date Posted: 06 Aug 07 at 10:22am
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I have a friend at my local club who about 2 months ago bought a set of the new ISO sails from Hyde, via wet + windy. Since then they are struggling to get any good boatspeed from them, with the old sails they were competing for line honours with the other fast boats, however now they are finishing with the GP14s and Enterprises. They claim that the sails just aern't providing the power and that they have read a similar statement about the new Buzz sails. I'm not to sure myself, i think that due to the quite big changes that have been made with the new sails they must sail differently and need to be set up differently. I'm just wondering if there are any ISO (or Buzz) sailors out there who are having similar thoughts / problems. ------------- Cherub 2663 "Sweet Dreams" RS400 451 "IceBerg" |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 06 Aug 07 at 10:38am
| Has he talked to the makers? They quite probably need quite different settings and handling as you say. Maybe Hydes could help him? |
Posted By: 422797
Date Posted: 06 Aug 07 at 11:14am
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On the ISO Class website there is a guide to sailing with the new Hydes. I have not read it, nor am I an ISO sailor but I would imagine it is a good start point. |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 06 Aug 07 at 11:30am
I would have thought the hyde sails would be more refined  ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: MpHarris
Date Posted: 06 Aug 07 at 12:24pm
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Thats what i thought apparently they have tried the website and have done things as the guide says but its not making a difference. Again i'm not 100% sure how accurate this is, or how closely their boat is set up to the one that is giving the advise, (strop length etc). I'd not thought about contacting Hyde i'll let them know and see what happens. ------------- Cherub 2663 "Sweet Dreams" RS400 451 "IceBerg" |
Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 06 Aug 07 at 1:11pm
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I was out racing yesterday with Josh (MPJPBUZZ585), and he had a new main and kite, and I was out with the old sails, and we seemed to be able to point a lot better than him, but downwind he seemed to catch up with the new cut kite. but he was using an old style jib, would that make a big difference? ------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 08 Aug 07 at 10:48pm
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The guys at my club with the new sails are going like sh*t off an uber shiny shovel at the moment, the new sails seem great!
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 12:01am
The new sails ( especially on the iso's) are definately leading the old sails round the course, BUT talking to the guys doing the leading they have definately said of some changes they have made to the boat, best thing to do is to go to the nationals and talk to these guys and see if they can suggest anything ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk">  BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 9:53am
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Basically guys. With any new sail plan of course there are going to be changes. Have you taken into account for example the age of masts and the way people sail the boats and rig tensions etc? Or does everyone stick to regimented settings? Cheers, Alex ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 09 Aug 07 at 11:45am
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When I went from old sails to new sails on an RS400, my speed dropped right away. It took a couple of weeks or more of steady sailing, and lots of re-measuring and setting up to get the speed back. Then it was back to be being faster again. And the 400 sails are "all the same" whether new or old. So I would definately get the measures out and re-calculate what you want from the boat and how to set it up for that (e.g. fast vs flexible; waves vs flat water; point high vs foot fast; upwind vs downwind; keep it totally flat vs keep it nearly flat - everyone will want slightly different settings, and you need to know what you want and how to get it). |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 10 Aug 07 at 3:31pm
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We have an ISO at our club with new sails and in the light stuff he's much quicker than before, not been out yet in a blow though.
The old sails by Sobstad shrank into shape over time, so that the quickest sails were the oldest ones, assuming of course that they didnt de-laminate first ! |
Posted By: Northern Monkey
Date Posted: 20 Aug 07 at 7:45am
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What are the clubs that people are talking about where they now have fast ISO's and Buzz's with the new sails? I'd like to make sure they are coming to the nationals next weekend at Herne Bay! Ah well, thinking about it, I would like to get in touch after the nationals - don't want them coming along a ruining the pecking order you know!! |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 20 Aug 07 at 6:42pm
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I've just started using a new kite on the 4000. Horrible at first luff seemed most stable with the tape folded back on itself. However now with a couple few races completed the luff looks good. So there is definitely a little bit of stretching going on. |
Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 21 Aug 07 at 10:44am
Maybe stretch marks are a good thing
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Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 21 Aug 07 at 1:26pm
Not going to try convincing the wife of that!!!!
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