Gloves...grrr...
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Topic: Gloves...grrr...
Posted By: Iain C
Subject: Gloves...grrr...
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 7:45pm
Just packing my sailing kit for tomorrow and I realise that I now have £75.00 of knackered gloves in my kitbag. For me, they always go in the same place, and you'll end up with a blister on the middle section of your wedding ring finger (and the other hand too of course!)
How hard can it be for the clothing manufactureres to build in some kevlar here? My gloves seem to last no more than a season, come on guys be the first to deisgn a glove that truly lasts and get the market cornered!!
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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 7:53pm
The majority of sails don't last a season, gloves are the least of our worries
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 8:03pm
Championship gloves do have kevlar there http://www.welshharp.co.uk/product_detail.php?productID=1035 - http://www.welshharp.co.uk/product_detail.php?productID=1035 something like that
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 8:24pm
I use thermal builders latex palmed gloves slightly better then the orange ones as they are thicker, they cost about £3 a pair and last about 3 weeks tops, but they are awesome, apparantly you can get them with Kevlar in for chainsaw work, my helm is trying to get some as we speak i will report !
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 8:26pm
I have the Championship gloves ( the ones Hannah mentioned ) and they have survived about 4 months of weekly use before the ends of the fingers split. Its not a big split, but you can feel it.
I just let water drain out of them through that hole now ... and cant be bothered spending XX ammount on new gloves until these ones are in shreds or cant grip my kite sheets properly.
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 8:34pm
Originally posted by Merlinboy
I use thermal builders latex palmed gloves slightly better then the orange ones as they are thicker, they cost about £3 a pair and last about 3 weeks tops, but they are awesome, apparantly you can get them with Kevlar in for chainsaw work, my helm is trying to get some as we speak i will report ! |
You can get them with chain mail too.....
Try http://www.Arco.co.uk - www.Arco.co.uk
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:05am
Originally posted by Iain C
For me, they always go in the same place, and you'll end up with a blister on the middle section of your wedding ring finger (and the other hand too of course!) |
Its funny how I usually remember to tape up that finger after the gloves are going, but it has never occurred to me to tape up that spot on new gloves so that they last... A bit of gaffer tape and my gloves would probably last three times as long!
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:41am
I just bought some Gill 3 finger gloves. I will be sailing 4 times a week for the next two months. I have got the cherub nats as well so some fairly hard use. They look well made and fit well so they should last. I had some crewsaver sh*te before that were £12 and lasted 2 weeks before the seems started to go. These were £25 so they should be the muts nuts. I have learned (already, only 17) the hard way with hiking gear, I have gone through countless pairs until I got hold of some £90 berghaus boots that lasted me my silver and gold Duke of Edinburgh practice and final hikes, thats a lot of walking time! Spend that little bit extra every time, I know I will.
EDIT: These gloves (from the actual shop!) http://www.welshharp.co.uk/product_detail.php?productID=1037
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 7:10am
Ross, you'll go through those as well, but they do last far longer than most. I think they're worth the money. I shall try and remember to tape up that ring finger middle joint that always goes first on my next pair to see if it makes a difference.
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Posted By: Fraggle
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 9:08am
The simple option is not to wear gloves - gave up on mine after crewing an RS200 and not being able to hoist the kite wearing my gloves. You're hands soon toughen up.
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 9:27am
Not that simple i'm affrad, on skiffs you cant not wear them kite sheet loads and hoists and drops on a 200 are some what different to those of a 14, cherub etc etc
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Posted By: Graham T
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 9:51am
Last year Lidl had cheap sailing gloves - I can't remember how much but as they were so cheap I bought several pairs meaning to use them as almost disposable. I'm still on the first pair after a year of Osprey sailing.......
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 10:00am
Originally posted by turnturtle
I've been using harken gloves since I've had the musto- zero wear and tear so far so very impressed, tho I bet the sheet loads are less on the musto than say the 14 or cherub.
I have the standard ones, http://www.harkenuk.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPRODUCT&productid=139 - although these look quite gucci
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I use the Harken ones (I do have a big Harken logo on the sail though) and I have tried both styles.
Both last really well and I usually expect a pair to last a season.
But as James says the sheet loads on the Musto are not that high - I think my gloves get more wear in the 12 
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Posted By: giraffe
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 10:18am
these Zhik gloves are excellent
http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=8109&itemtitle=Gloves%20202 - http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid= 8109&itemtitle=Gloves%20202
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 10:37am
I crewed the cherub with no gloves once before and there was blood, lots of blood!
That 3mm kite halyard really made a mess of my fingers!
I swear by the cheap bright orange builders gloves. Multiple purchases makes them cheap and just throw them away after a few sessions.
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 11:26am
I was give these as a present and I have to say they are the best I have used. Still going strong with no signs of them breaking down.
Gill Pro Glove http://www.gillclothing.co.uk/acatalog/Gloves.html - link

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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:11pm
yay! my gloves... What boats do you sail and how often do you use the gloves?
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:15pm
yeh, i have a pair of them, had them since november last year, ill go and take a picture to show you what they look like after laser sailing at least twice a week and crewing a fireball in the last few months...
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:21pm
Yep my Gills are on the second season, the surface is scuffed abraded and genrally look well used but no splits or tears!!
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Posted By: Hobbo
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:24pm
Had the same cam to the end of their life last weekend after a pretty hard year and a halfs use on Ospreys, Cherubs and Contenders, have now got another pair of Gill Gloves which are gonna have to last me though the summer, Minorca for 6 weeks, Aus then back to Minorca - i'm confident they can do it.
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:39pm
Originally posted by timnoyce
I swear by the cheap bright orange builders gloves. Multiple purchases makes them cheap and just throw them away after a few sessions.
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Im a big fan of them too... they dont last too long but the most you pay for them is about £3 and if you hunt around and check out builders merchants etc then you can pick up a pair for under a quid and ive yet to try anything with as much grip. Add in a pair of fingerless neoprene rugby gloves underneith for the winter and your set up.
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by Ross
yay! my gloves... What boats do you sail and how often do you use the gloves?
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Had them when I was in Cherubs, and now in the N12. Use, regular club sailing and when i was sailing the Cherub opens and Nationals. A Nationals week in Cherubs seems to destroy some gloves.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by Fraggle
The simple option is not to wear gloves - gave up on mine after crewing an RS200 and not being able to hoist the kite wearing my gloves. You're hands soon toughen up.
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Me too.. Not particularly high loads on a L2 and I suppose it depends on what you do for a living, engineers and the like will have tough hands anyway. I find that most gloves make my hands colder due to increased evaporation effect.
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 12:58pm
here are the promised pictures, im not sure why all your gloves havent done this...
left one is worst but the right one is going too
have to say the fingers havent split yet.
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
here are the promised pictures, im not sure why all your gloves havent done this...
left one is worst but the right one is going too
have to say the fingers havent split yet. |
I think most glove manufactures haven't constructed the fingers like that because according to the Gill web site they have patented the method? How you can patent a garment's construction is beyond me but that's what they say.
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 1:08pm
Been very pleased with my Rooster gloves - the red and white ones with black grippy reinforcement on maybe their third season - but, admittedly, the sheet loads are light in a 3k and I sometimes wear other gloves e.g. in winter.
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Posted By: bob jones
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 1:47pm
opps sorry -- I seem to have stumbled on to a female hand care forum, I am
sure you can get good moisturiser also to soothe from glove wearing
friction.
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Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by Isis
Originally posted by timnoyce
I swear by the cheap bright orange builders gloves. Multiple purchases makes them cheap and just throw them away after a few sessions.
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Im a big fan of them too... they dont last too long but the most you pay for them is about £3 and if you hunt around and check out builders merchants etc then you can pick up a pair for under a quid and ive yet to try anything with as much grip. Add in a pair of fingerless neoprene rugby gloves underneith for the winter and your set up.
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Mine are black but yea same idea. I think dad picks them up from the builders yard, being a builder it's convenient , he tends to come home with a big bag full I havn't found that they last to long but for grip they are awsome plus they look good in black.
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 2:03pm
I never seem to be able to find new pairs though, they always seem to go missing  Builders gloves are cool although i did get through a pair and a half in garda. But that was quite hard use Alex
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Posted By: bob jones
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 2:14pm
Of course.....trapeeze very horizontal or even with your head lower than your
feet. That will alleviate pressure on sensative area's. Failing that castration,
or one of these nice boys in this forum could reccomend a cream for the job.
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Posted By: bob jones
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 2:24pm
And like Cherubs rarely seen and hard to come by.
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 3:46pm
Nice job, boys. You've managed to lower the tone in 3 easy posts, 
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 4:15pm
harken black magic gloves, grippy and long lasting... unlike my centreboard gasket for some reason
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Posted By: BigFatStan
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 4:29pm
If they split there why don't you try a bigger size?
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by bob jones
And like Cherubs rarely seen and hard to come by. |
Depends where you look I guess as I see them most weekends and every time I look in the yard 
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 6:01pm
Originally posted by turnturtle
Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull
I never seem to be able to find new pairs though, they always seem to go missing 
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there are only three explanations for this alex...
1) you're a careless git, but it doesn't matter 'cos your rentals will buy you another pair
2) smight has been stealing them again
3) you have a very weird neighbour with a dodgy hand garment fetish
obviously the only solutions are
a) beat yourself up b) beat your brother up c) beat up the whole damn neighbourhood until one of the bastards confessess |
Nope, I have come to the conclusion that as i see Smight and his crew wearing them. That this is why there is never any when i come to need a new pair
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 6:42pm
I have some Gill gloves as well and they are rubbish in fact i will give them to who ever wants them, thy slip to much i cant hoist the kite
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Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 7:16pm
shotgun!
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Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull
Originally posted by turnturtle
Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull
I never seem to be able to find new pairs though, they always seem to go missing 
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there are only three explanations for this alex...
1) you're a careless git, but it doesn't matter 'cos your rentals will buy you another pair
2) smight has been stealing them again
3) you have a very weird neighbour with a dodgy hand garment fetish
obviously the only solutions are
a) beat yourself up b) beat your brother up c) beat up the whole damn neighbourhood until one of the bastards confessess
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Nope, I have come to the conclusion that as i see Smight and his crew wearing them. That this is why there is never any when i come to need a new pair
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1. The gloves are as much mine as they are yours
2. dad gave rory the gloves not me
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 10:37pm
Which means equallity george. I have had two pairs out of that box . . .
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Posted By: tickler
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 11:17pm
In Buxton (Derbyshire) there is a warehouse called "The Discount Centre". Here one can buy almost anything, plastic flowers, diamond cutting disks (only 30 bob) and builders gloves at £1.00 per pair. What's more you can buy pink ones for girls blue ones for boys and yellow ones for real sons of toil, like myself. Oh, and grey that look like Typhoon for those of you who wish to pretend that you spent more than a pound. The only problem with this handwear is that they are easily discarded and mess up my families area of the boat park. As to not wearing gloves at all, my boy does that and seems to manage quite well whereas my knackered old hands worn out by the building trade and old age need the comfort of gloves. Goodnight.
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 12 Jul 07 at 2:45pm
Not what I call hard wearing...


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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 12 Jul 07 at 2:48pm
You should try actually holding on to the rope 
Or may be stop rigging your boat on it's side so the ropes don't get sand in them and act like a Black and Decker Power File! 
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 12 Jul 07 at 7:06pm
woo im not the only one with shredded gill gloves!
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 12 Jul 07 at 8:09pm
Why do you keep buying the same type ... experiment a bit ...
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 12 Jul 07 at 11:16pm
Exactly what i was going to say. If they keep doing that. Why buy them?
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Posted By: Dead Air
Date Posted: 16 Jul 07 at 11:30am
Iain is one of natures horders, look in his garage and you will find fittings off of his first wooden garden shed of a fireball, that just might come on handy one day.
In fact I bet you still have that rod forestay that is virtually impossible to rig hanging behind the shed door
Hence he still has every pair of sailing gloves, knackered or not, just in case...
in all fairness, sailing the blonde will chew gloves, and those yellow gill ones were the hardest wearing I ever came across until switching to the builders gloves
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Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 16 Jul 07 at 7:31pm
If you are OK with fingerless, I've tried cheapo cycling gloves and weight training gloves. The former are better than the latter - but the dye does run and makes your hands looks weird!
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