Mass production Cherubs
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Topic: Mass production Cherubs
Posted By: k_kirk
Subject: Mass production Cherubs
Date Posted: 07 Jul 07 at 6:33pm
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Another slow day question. What is the status of the Mass production Cherubs/variants that were entered into the ISAF trials. Are they available now for regular people to place orders? |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Jul 07 at 10:35pm
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Never known a supplier yet who wouldn't take an order.
Sometimes its wise to check delivery dates as well... I once knew of a supplier of mass production motorcycles who took orders for a particular pair of models so long before any deliveries were made that we in the trade suspected at the time that they didn't actiually design and build the bike until the advance order book demonstrated there was enough of a market! |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 07 Jul 07 at 11:14pm
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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 08 Jul 07 at 10:08pm
| According to the Carbonology site you can order a boat now, I think moulds are being made straight after the Nationals so delivery shouldn't be too long... |
Posted By: Granite
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 1:40pm
From what I have heard if you they are still working on a qualification system so you can prove you will be able to cope with a Cherub. I think the current plan is to require a small test peice i.e. compass bracket or tiller extension you have made yourself which will be evaluated before your order is accepted. ------------- If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 5:22pm
Seriously? Doesn't that defy the pre-mentioned "regular people"?
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Posted By: k_kirk
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 5:51pm
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 6:20pm
Without. The earliest there could possibly be a decision on whether or no there's a womens high performance dinghy is Nov 2007. I think the actual choice of class would be Nov 2008. |
Posted By: k_kirk
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 6:29pm
| Right. Perhaps I mis-worded my question. I am wondering whether the two manufacturers in question will go ahead with the mass-production investment irregardless of the Olympic selection or not. I believe they have committed to a <14K Euro sticker for the trials but that has to be factoring the volume sales anticipated from the Olympic class status. So if they are not chosen then what will the likely sticker price be? |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 9:28pm
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 9:51pm
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Hartley (as far as I know) are fully prepped to build you a boat now, carbonology will be in a few weeks if not now and there are a number of builders who would hapily build you a cherub with as much or as little design imput from you as you wish... If there is demand, boats will be built... mass production will only come from mass demand. ------------- |
Posted By: k_kirk
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 6:05am
| This is great! I am in no rush. Will wait and order when the demand is there. I am still hoping larger production volumes will push the prices a little lower. Thanks for all of the input on this thread. Not much more to discuss really. |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 7:34am
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The prices are rediculously low aready when you think about what you aregetting for 6995, take a look around and a lot of similar (and i use that term very loosely cherub enthusiasts) are priced a lot lot higher for a package that is in no means superior and is infact more dated than the cherub option. ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: k_kirk
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 8:51am
| I agree. The problem is when you get into the one off international shipment business you typically see prices going up significantly. Did I mention I don't live in the UK? What I'm hoping is that one of these firms might get the big ticket and start pushing x number of kits to countries around the world. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 10 Jul 07 at 8:51am
I'd bet that increased demand will push the prices a bit higher as the builders seek a slightly more reasonable margin. That looks a lot like a "special introductory price" to me and if I were you I'd get it while its gettable. |
Posted By: bob jones
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 1:38pm
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Dont hold your breath, how many 49ers are built in a year? Not sure you can
call many sailing boats "mass produced". A 12' skiff for women? not sure the builder of that will retire earlier to his (or her) holidy home in the Caribbean. |
Posted By: bob jones
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 2:42pm
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I guess thats an option, especially if you want avoide extradition for some
reason ???! |
Posted By: bob jones
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 3:04pm
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i guess that would offset the curruption-- so the British tax payer subsidises
south American costoms officials ? So what does our retired millionaire Cherub builder want to export (duty free less corruption) from Brazil? |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 11 Jul 07 at 11:10pm
Not RS200s by all accounts... [grin] |