Lightweight 2 man boat???
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Topic: Lightweight 2 man boat???
Posted By: runningfree
Subject: Lightweight 2 man boat???
Date Posted: 27 May 07 at 3:49pm
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Hi, me and my crew are looking for a 2 man non trapeze dinghy. The place where i sail doesnt give you much time to trapeze so its not really an option. Id probably prefer symmetric as all the classes at the club are symmetric. Me and my crew are both 15 and reasonably experienced. Not fussed on sailing in handicap either. Together we weigh 18 - 19 stone ish. Something fast (well faster than gp14s solos etc). There isnt many out there that i know of but if nothing comes up we may be able to get one with a trap. Any ideas? Price range is about £2000 maybe a little more! Thanks |
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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 27 May 07 at 6:20pm
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National 12. But that's my answer to everything. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 27 May 07 at 6:58pm
| RS200? Laser 2? Lark? |
Posted By: runningfree
Date Posted: 27 May 07 at 7:17pm
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I was thinking about a lark. How much slower are they than the RS200? weight range? ------------- |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 27 May 07 at 7:29pm
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RS200 PY 1059, Lark 1073, so not much in it, and in the conditions you describe the Lark might even win more often on the water because of its symmetric kite. Light teams have been successful in Larks, so that's certainly one to consider. Scorpions are nice and (PY 1056) quicker still, but I'm not sure about the crew weight requirement. ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 27 May 07 at 11:12pm
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For £2000, national 12 all the way, could not get a 200 or a decent lark (post 2300) for that price. ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: allanorton
Date Posted: 28 May 07 at 6:27am
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Tasar? http://www.tasar.org.uk/ - http://www.tasar.org.uk/ ------------- |
Posted By: runningfree
Date Posted: 28 May 07 at 1:34pm
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I would prefer a boat with a spinny to be honest, prehaps the MAX i can go up to is £2500. Basically a PY lower than 1080, or faster than the ol' 420! Need something to actually compete with the other boats rather than be near the back! Larks are quite hard to find especially up north aswel same with the 200 so im not quite sure on which boat would do the job! Any more ideas? ------------- |
Posted By: runningfree
Date Posted: 28 May 07 at 2:23pm
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What about a scorpion? ------------- |
Posted By: Holly
Date Posted: 28 May 07 at 5:22pm
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I tend to sail as a girlie team and we're always very light - I had an RS200 and we were 16 stone all up, great fun whatever the weather but you're looking at £3000 upwards.
However, I'm now helming a Lark and despite it's being hard work in a blow the rig is forgiving and in the light stuff you'll fly. Keep you're eyes open on the website (www.larkclass.org) and I wouldn't rule out doing a little work to an old one and buying a new suit of sails. Alternatively, if you're considering a trapeze - I guess a Laser 2 would be a cheap, and slightly quicker, option. |
Posted By: ColH
Date Posted: 28 May 07 at 7:09pm
No kite, but often under-estimated. A really nice boat, the Tasar - especially with the new sails. They can really fly. ------------- |
Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 29 May 07 at 12:53pm
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You can get a perfectly respectable Lark for under £2k I sold mine a coupla years ago in that price bracket. Having seen RS200's vs Larks on a restricted piece of water - the RS never sails to its handicap (& do they moan or what?), while the Lark can, and does. Its all down to the downwind angles, and the fact that the RS can't get the benefit from its assymetric kite. Crew-weight wise, there's not much to choose between them. 20-23 st but the Lark is a bit sensitive to weight in the front. |
Check out the classifieds on their website http://www.Larkclass.org - www.Larkclass.org Posted By: runningfree
Date Posted: 29 May 07 at 6:54pm
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Yeah, im liking the look of the lark, the scorpion is pretty similar, anyone got any idea on the weight range? Seems to be a fair few for sale up north as well which is pretty handy! Anyone know anything about it? ------------- |
Posted By: Tessa
Date Posted: 29 May 07 at 10:24pm
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Scoprpion - my favourite hiking boat! At 18 -19 stone you are in the weight range for a scorpion and on the lighter side of average. You should be able to get a secondhand boat for £2000 - decent for racing. A new one will cost a bit more than that. I'd say it's worth making sure (don't know how exactly!) that the crew is average height rather than very very tall as the front end is reasonably nice and snug on a calm day. The buying advice on the scorpion website is all good: h http://matrix.webservercity.com/~sailscor/scorpionassociation/html/buying.htm - ttp://matrix.webservercity.com/~sailscor/scorpionassociation /html/buying.htm The inlands are at Grafham on June 16th/17th - could be a good place to find out more once people have finished racing for the day. Have fun, Tessa Scorpion 1903 The Heart of Gold
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Posted By: damp_freddie
Date Posted: 30 May 07 at 11:33am
Yep the tasar is an excellent bet for a small sailing lake with shifty winds for teenagers! Great in light winds and when it is blowing you will eat RS200s round the course. Really fun to get planing up wind with a very comfy hiking deck! |
Posted By: Silverlode
Date Posted: 03 Jun 07 at 8:27pm
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Scorpion is ideal for 18-19 stone. But you need to get one with adjustable rake as this is the key to controlling the power when you are at the light end of the weight range. Should be do-able with a budget of £2k. Have fun. ------------- Scorpion 1995 |