Middle East 'Canoe' Sailing
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Topic: Middle East 'Canoe' Sailing
Posted By: JimC
Subject: Middle East 'Canoe' Sailing
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 1:33am
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http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/clickability/index.html?url=/video/specials/2007/03/16/main.sail.gulf.sailing.cnn - Canoe Sailing - Middle East Style
Not the boat for tacking duels, but grief doesn't it slip through the water? Spot Shirley Robertson's unexpected ducking part way through... |
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 9:15am
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That was brilliant. Thankyou Jim. They really slip along don't they. (So much for carbon and trapezes |
)Posted By: boatshed
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 10:01am
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Many of these dhows are very old and in fantastic condition. They really are "classic" boats. The new ones are built, as shown, by very traditional methods using ancient tools. The level of craftmanship is high and most of the skilled workers come from Egypt. In Dubai you can still see large, trading dhows being built by hand in shipyards alongside modern steel stuff. These boats are probably the only pieces of history left in what is now a very modern place. ------------- Steve |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 10:42am
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Yes one of my sisters lives out in Dubai (or the building site formerly known as.....). I must look out for these next time. I know eff all about boat design but these look very efficient boats. Lots of interior room, but slim and long at the waterline. The sails (note best linen) seem to do the job as well. We're definitely overcomplicating all this sailing lark.... now where's my adze and awl. |
Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 11:41am
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Beautiful!!! Mike |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 11:56am
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I was sailing a RS 400 as that race was going on, it was the Sheik bin zayed al Maktoum or somthing like that.They do go quick exept they cant tack or jibe so it gets rarther boring i expect. Plus the starts all a bit of a muddle it just the boat with the fastest RIB towing them that gets there first when the hooter goes. ------------- |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 9:05pm
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cool stuff ------------- |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 21 Apr 07 at 7:54pm
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those look beautiful ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 7:14pm
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lovely - and you CAN tack it (slowly) and even trapeze, though no harness appears to be needed! Here's another sailing canoe spotted in sulawesi. Plastic bags not best linen, and only really works down wind. This one's the double hander, but there are single hander and cat versions too.
------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 8:45pm
One of the advantages of there being different cultures still out there is that you can leran from different approaches to things. I suspect there is probably more there of what used to be the traditional sailors principle that only a fool sails upwind and against the tide. The low aspect ratio steeply inclined leading edge rig on the dhow is probably petty mediocre beating, but I bet on a reach it produces shed loads more power per square foot and especially per kilo heeling moment than a bermudan rig. And if you're smart enough not to have to beat... well no contest which rig to use is it? |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 9:40pm
I can't get it to play
------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 8:55pm
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You have to allow pop-ups, and it takes a while to start - but it's worth it. The sail looks like a huge asymetric - and below a beam reach that's all you need I guess. Certainly my mainsail doesn't do much when the kite is pulling us along. Lovely long flat luff to create roll over vortices, so probably works a treat on a really deep reach. Whereas the Indonesian version ... it's soo wrong, how has it lasted so many centuries? ------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |