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Topic: Trailer breakdown
Posted By: Guest
Subject: Trailer breakdown
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 6:55pm

Did you know that if you have RAC breakdown cover and the trailer breaks down they won't help ...

If you are trailing your boat and the car breaks down and they can't fix it they will recover the car & trailer but if it is a trailer breakdown your are on your own.

Are the AA or Greenflag the same?

Rick




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Posted By: Major Iyeswater
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 7:05pm

Lots on this in the Dinghy multihulls about 3-4 months ago under

Hot Topic no new posts Breakdown Cover

 



Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 11:48pm
I found this out the hard way on a bank holiday weekend collecting my albacore! My brother took the spare wheel out b4 we left for some reason, anyway on the m4 the wheel and tyre blew out, i called rac who didnt want to know!  I had to call a private recovery firm, who quoted £200 to get to nearest services or £500 to get 80 miles home.  I had bought the boat as a quick winter project for £85 !! feltlike pushing it over the embankment and going!!!  I got towed to sevices, and i had to get my dad to drive from bath to tewkesbury and then back down m4 with spare wheel.  My brother had left me to my own devices because he had a curry booked.  I didnt get home until 3:00 in the morning.  the aa on the over hand i believe will recover the trailer

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Posted By: tornado435
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 7:35am

As the Major put it look at the other thread, but basically!!

Two choices.

Noble Marine have a scheme but there are restrictions on size, through the AA I think.

or

Join the Camping and caravaning club then get their RAC recovery option. This removes all weight height and length limits. imho the only way to go if you have a big boat, ie Hurricane or Tornado.

 

Can't believe I agreed with the Major!!!! 



Posted By: tornado435
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 7:38am

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1981&PN=1 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1 981&PN=1

Luckily I found another thread so I can add more than the Major. That was just a bit too close

 

See the pic from SX girl. Kev looks happy in it



Posted By: Noble Marine
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 8:51am

Originally posted by tornado435

Noble Marine have a scheme but there are restrictions on size, through the AA I think.

We did set up a scheme, earlier this year, with a company called Boat Trailer Assist, using the RAC, but their web site has been out of order for quite a while now.

I have spoken direct to the RAC, and the best that they could suggest was to join the Camping and Caravanning Club, or refer us back through Boat Trailer Assist.

The Caravan Club (who are different to the CCC, apparently ) also have a scheme via Green Flag.  Green Flag are currently trying to decide whether they can set up a scheme for boat owners, but want me to guarantee that a huge number of sailors will sign up

A number of recovery firms have said that it shouldn't be a problem, to include trailer recovery within a standard vehicle membership, but can't promise to always be in a position to provide a suitable tow-away vehicle.  Not great, if you happen to be the one stuck on a motorway at 11pm on a Sunday night.

If I do manage to arrange something, I'll certainly let the forum know.

 



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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 9:08am

For those of us twawling around the country for opens this is a bad situation.

I am a member of the RAC - if I join the Caravan club (argh) will they cover my trailer?

Rick



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Posted By: SX Girl
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 9:10am
Originally posted by tornado435

See the pic from SX girl. Kev looks happy in it

 Not surprising as that was taken at about 4am Saturday morning after about 5 hours on the side of the M23!

The sunrise was nice though



Posted By: SX Girl
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 9:18am
Originally posted by Guest#260

For those of us twawling around the country for opens this is a bad situation.

I am a member of the RAC - if I join the Caravan club (argh) will they cover my trailer?

Rick

Reading the policy, it says trailers are only covered if you are carrying a serviceable spare wheel and trye for your trailerotherwise yes the trailer is covered provided you have Arrival membership.



Posted By: tornado435
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 9:27am

Rick, Basically ditch your current RAC, join the Camping and Caravanning club, different to the caravan club, then take out their arrival membership. ( club and arrival about 100 quid).  then feel free to break down. I did it on Tuesday, in my car, not van and without a trailer but everything went well.

One other thing SX girl found out is you are covered to a max of £2500 of specialist cover, though they don't tell you what each breakdown cost? In essence a fair use policy.



Posted By: tornado435
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 9:28am

P.S.

 

Credit for the majority of my knowledge on this topic must go to SX girl who had been there and done it before me!!

Must learn more about that sunrise



Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 11:20am

I'm a member of AA. When my tyre blewout on the way back from Scotland they offered to send a truck, put the boat on the back of it, and take it home for me.



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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 11:26am
Originally posted by Guest#260

Did you know that if you have RAC breakdown cover and the trailer breaks down they won't help ...

If you are trailing your boat and the car breaks down and they can't fix it they will recover the car & trailer but if it is a trailer breakdown your are on your own.

Are the AA or Greenflag the same?

Rick

Rick are you talking about trailer only breakdowns here?

If so I guess the answer here is keep your trailer in good condition. There is not much that can go wrong with it. Carry at least one spare tyre or 2 if going on a long journey. Change the tyres if starting to perish. Keep bearings well greased.

On the way to Garda one year a triple boat Contender trailer blew up one of their wheel bearings inside av Swiss mountain tunnel. The guys changed the wheel and bearing in 15 minutes flat - I suppose the motivation to get out of the tunnel was enough. The point is if you are going a long way carry spares o get yourself out of trouble.

Not much else can go wrong with your trailer unless it is badly corroded. Then the answer is don't use it and buy a new one. Would you drive a car in such a condition. What about MOTs for road trailers?



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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 11:28am
Originally posted by Strawberry

I'm a member of AA. When my tyre blewout on the way back from Scotland they offered to send a truck, put the boat on the back of it, and take it home for me.

How much longer did it take to get home? If you had a spare then you would not have had the inconvenience. 



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Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 11:48am
The spare had been punctured on the way up there!

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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 26 Oct 06 at 11:52am
My trailer has the same size wheel OD as my car so if I get stuck I can lob one of them on!

Big wheels on trailers are much better, I dont trust those little skimpy things.


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Posted By: Rob D
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 11:26am

Been a member of the camping and caravan club now for 5 years since the nice man at RAC pointed out to me that the trailer cover I had paid extra for did not "actually" cover the trailer!!   After much discussion he told me to "swallow my pride" and join the CCC.

I've had to ask the post man to push the monthly magazine all the way through the letter box in case the neighbors spot it, I also shred it before I put it in the re-cycling just in case

There is one major benefit - Total cost of CCC & RAC cover through CCC is cheaper than original RAC membership.



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Ex Base 1 Skiff Team


Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 11:49am

I'm surprised you bother to go to those lengths to deny your CCC membership Rob, surely the Volvo estate gives the game away (don't they come with factory-fitted CCC stickers?).     Assuming you've still got the Volvo estate of course.. I mean it was only 10 or so years ago I last saw it...

Mike



Posted By: Rob D
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 12:35pm
Originally posted by MikeBz

 Assuming you've still got the Volvo estate of course.. I mean it was only 10 or so years ago I last saw it...

Mike

Still got a Volvo estate, not the same one as you and Graham helped trash, just a slightly newer one which Paul and Alec help trash.

You and Graham still hold the record for filling the back seat with rubish on a Garda Trip



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Rob Dulson
Ex Base 1 Skiff Team


Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 1:09pm

Originally posted by timnoyce

My trailer has the same size wheel OD as my car so if I get stuck I can lob one of them on!

Big wheels on trailers are much better, I dont trust those little skimpy things.

I would have thought the same as Tim but after reading another thread discussing pressures in 8" tyres (Oh, the glamourous lives we lead!) I had a look at a couple of websites.

The first thing of note is that the UK has its very own National Trailer and Towing Association. Marvellous.

The second is that the construction of trailer tyres is slightly different to car tyres, the side walls being stiffer to deal with the trailer's tendency to sway. However, 8" trailer tyres are really really skinny compared to even the smallest car's so I'm not sure if these 2 things cancel themselves out. Boat trailers aside there are any number of box trailers on the roads diy-made from half the running gear of an old mini so I suppose car tyes are safe enough.



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Hurricane 5.9 SX
RS700


Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 3:03pm
I looked at this issue a while ago when towing to garda, and as a result changed my breakdown policy to Direct Line from AA. Can't say I read the 'changes to your policy' that hard each time I've renewed since then so I might be wrong, and I'nve never yet had to test it.

I will however be putting the 4K trailer in for new bearing/servicing over the winter however.

cheers
greg


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 11:40pm

I've always towed my Furball at, shall we say, slightly above recommended speed limits and had no problems whatsoever (frantically looking for nearest wood to keyboard!)

Stu with respect your problem is alignment, your wheels toe out something rotten and I'm guessing you had a blowout on the inside wall/tread of the tyres.  we had a look when we passed you (twice!) on the way back from the Skiff nats. (We'd stopped for a FatMacs in the car and Simon was towing my boat back for me, bless him! The joys of not being allowed a towbar on the company car...)

Some new suspension units or some re-alignment of the existing ones might well solve the problem for you mate.

Good thread though, had not even considered this!!



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Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 28 Oct 06 at 12:18am

Damn straight! (Or not in this case)

But this a thread about breakdown recovery, not why I had a blow out!



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