At the beginning of the summer I had a look at 600 prices and many were around £1200-ish mark. Now I've finally got the cash together at the end of the season and the prices have gone nuts, they are all at £1800+. What has happened?

What with the mad £200/yr insurance, they are now well out of my price range

Noble Marine can insure a £1500 RS600 for just over £200 per year.  If an insurer is undercutting us by this margin, you should carefully check the cover being offered and the reputation of the insurance company providing the policy.  If in any doubt, ask your fellow sailors or the repairers for their advice before buying a policy or take a look at our http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/insuringyourdinghy.php3 - Guide to Insuring your Dinghy .

Remember that a cheap policy may end up costing you a lot more if you should have to make a claim.

I think its great that it costs £200 to insure a £1500 boat!, I can insure my misses £7000 Renault Clio that she uses every day for the same money!  Do some shopping around! I know the £600 is a perfomance racing machine! but come on.

Having said that when i put a claim through on my phantom Nobel were very quick to payout, so i suppose you get some value there.

The comparison between insurance cost of cars and boats is one that is frequently made, but the two are obviously very different.

Replacing the mast and rigging on an RS600 costs £1100.  If we are to offer a New-For-Old policy for the rigs of this class, then we need to charge an appropriate premium.  Other insurers that do not offer this cover, can charge less, but could leave their clients with a big gap to fund between the market value of a four year old mast and the cost replacing with a new one.

By all means shop around, but check the cover being offered and don't just accept the cheapest premium.

Is there dinghy insurance cover around that is just 3rd party + theft?

Insuring older 14's is hell. Mine was £800, insurance quote was £300 which is nuts, unfortunatly it is (usually) the same premium if your 14 is £15,000 or £600 I'm sure many older high performance boats are not insured for this reason.

I've also had a combi trailer stolen from inside a locked and alarmed boatpark and the insurance company were refusing to pay out until they were threatened with the press/legal action. My policy on insurance for anything is the bare minimum.

I am toying with the idea of one if anyone knows of any more going cheap then please let me know

The latest on the foils was that Full Force and/or LDC would only look at putting them into production if they could be fitted very easily to existing boats and removed easily too. At the moment the boat requires a fair bit of surgery to accept foils and once converted, it is no longer a 600.

The opinion at the AGM was that foiling 600's as a racing class would not be welcome, after all why fragment an already small fleet?

There was concern for the long term health of the class too, at the moment there are supply issues with new boats and if all the old, cheap ones are snapped up by people who want to convert them to foils, where do newcomers to the class get a boat from?

Thats funny.

My premium with Noble is £354, for my RS800. And it supposedly has the old-for-new policy. I don't know at what point this policy allows me the right to a new mast? But when my current one is 6 years old and has snapped for a third time, am I right in thinking that I am? No, don't be daft.

In no way am I aiming this directly at you. Just having a rant. 

Hi,
I'm selling my 600 #790.  Good condition, comes with:

• Combi trailer
• Top and bottom covers
• Superspars mast
• Carbon extension
• Foil bags
• One OK condition sail (good for playing)
• One sail in as new condition (only done a few races)

Price is £2400 ono and it's based in Cheshire.  Email me for pics at:
ted 'at' targetmedia 'dot' net

p.s. I suspect the days of the cheap 600 have quite rightly been and gone.  They are brilliant boats and represent excellent value for money, hence the recent resurgence in the class.

All comprehensive dinghy policies provided by Noble Marine, include New For Old cover for any part of the rig, damaged beyond repair, irrespective of the equipment's age at the time of loss.

There is a possibility that the mast could be repaired, but if not, we'll pay for the new one.

I'm not aware of any company offering a third party and theft cover, but most will offer a third party only option.

Originally posted by m_liddell Insuring older 14's is hell. Mine was £800, insurance quote was £300 which is nuts, unfortunatly it is (usually) the same premium if your 14 is £15,000 or £600 I'm sure many older high performance boats are not insured for this reason.

£300 to insure a 14 valued at £800, sounds high to me. Our premium would be £187.19, although we wouldn't recommend insuring the boat like this for such a low value as a new mast or spinnaker is going to cost more than that.  Our premium for a Int 14 valued at £15000 would be £561.59.

I can only assume that your insurance company have increased your premium due to this and perhaps other claims you have made recently.  Have you checked this with them?

This was a different boat with a different insurance company, and it was my dad's policy anyway.

There are quite a few 600s at

http://www.dinghies4sale.com/new - www.dinghies4sale.com/new

Great to see the class bouncing back

Don't knock boat insurance guys. my car insurance is cheaper than the boat, but....... I'm not going to get a new car if I break it beyond repair!!!!!

I am getting a new mast for my 49er though

(thanks again Noble!)

Good point!

Imagine the conversation - "Hello Direct Line? I was thrashing the nuts off my car, trying to race this bloke in a Corsa, and my head gasket blew. Could I have another one please?"

From that perspective the full racing risks cover we have on most dinghy policies is generous to say the least

"Don't knock boat insurance guys. my car insurance is cheaper than the boat, but....... I'm not going to get a new car if I break it beyond repair!!!!!

I am getting a new mast for my 49er though "

You will get all of your money back for what tyou paid for the car within the first 3 years of ownership if you have a gap policy.

2 things, 

As Tim says that only counts on new cars ! and mine isn't new

my mast costs more than some cars and the premium reflects that!

you get what you pay for in my opinion.

 It's not the cheapest but it is the easiest and least hassle insurance company i have dealt with and we need insurance to cover lots of things .... what if you hurt someone?then there's the other boat, just lots of things.

Oh and my boats not new either.

No it doesnt only work with new cars, i think it is for cars upto 5 years old. and lasts for 3 years.  thats right your mast will cost more then some cars but look at wehat the premiums are to the value of the boat! and do the same for a resonably priced car for instance renault clio £7000 insurance £250.  Then look at the risk, a car is driven everyday.  and think how many more cars there are on the roads.

The only arguement i can see for boat insurance premiums is that most dinghys are used for racing.

I would never go for the chepest quote on any insurance policy, you do get what you pay for.  I have had dealings with nobel and they where great, but i found them to exspenive to renew myu policy so in the end i went with bishop skinner.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&item=110035305637&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&a mp;item=110035305637&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AI T&rd=1

This will never sell at that price. Also the seller needs a bit of a lesson on how to market his boat.

Guess what - it did not sell.

Now I am after some help. There is a mystery mast in our storage hut at the club which has very little rigging on it. It is made of carbon and has spreaders and what looks like diamond shrouds. I cannot see very clearly as it was tied up in the roof behind another mast. There is no foot on the mast and it looks like iut has only one halyard.

I suspect it may be from a RS600 but as we have none in the club I cannot compare it.

The club may be willing to sell it (stands back and waits for rush of Cherub sailors) but don't know what it could be worth. Any offers???