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Spinnaker Poles - what's that all about t

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Topic: Spinnaker Poles - what's that all about t
Posted By: Norbert
Subject: Spinnaker Poles - what's that all about t
Date Posted: 12 Sep 06 at 2:05pm
Ok this may seam a dumb question, but when were spinnaker poles invented for dinghies. I've seen photos of boats taken in the early 50s doing really weird stuff with their spinnakers. On a broader note, when did spinnakers generally start being used (with or without poles)? Where 1930s Int 14s using them?

Just wunderin.....






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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 12 Sep 06 at 4:12pm
Spinnaker poles on dinghies certainly date back to the 19th century... The 14s were certainly using them in the 1930s. What you've got in that photo is spinnakers being set inside the jib rather than outside. The reason this used to be done has always escaped me! I think there is one keelboat in the Southampton area (maybe the X class?) that still does this under class rules...


Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 12 Sep 06 at 4:44pm

i have done that before.

not intentionally tho

dosent work very well



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Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 12 Sep 06 at 8:22pm

I can't see why you would do it with a largish kite, but with a small kite and a large foretriangle it makes sense on a dead run.

Mike



Posted By: Worthy
Date Posted: 12 Sep 06 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by JimC

What you've got in that photo is spinnakers being set inside the jib rather than outside. The reason this used to be done has always escaped me!


To me it looks like they just rigged the kite up wrong


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Posted By: Skiffe
Date Posted: 13 Sep 06 at 9:29am

The pole is on the right.

And where is this kite sheeted, being a 6 footer its around depression era.

 



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Posted By: CT249
Date Posted: 13 Sep 06 at 11:26am
Some old class rules prohibited leading the spinnaker outside the forestay, leading to the way of setting shown in Norbert's pic.

This was, apparently (if I remember correctly) partly because that meant no one could cut a very flat "spinnaker" which could be used upwind in light winds. At least one Aussie class used to have such sails.

Also without kites and with baggy old sails, and with flow being directed into the genoa, thinking was that the setting the whole kite to windward of the genoa could actually be more efficient. As late as the late '50s, French 505s were doing it like those FDs.

With baggy old sails and traps being rare, it was hard to carry a kite on a reach anyway in those days.


Posted By: Philsy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 06 at 3:20pm
Depression era? No wonder, I'd be depressed trying to sail that lot...

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