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Topic: Knees
Posted By: fizzicist
Subject: Knees
Date Posted: 10 Aug 06 at 10:56pm

Any clues as to what I've done?

Having been hooning the 300 around in a blustery 25 knot wind tonight, my left knee went 'twang' when I turned to lift the trolley up and my boot gripped rather more than it should. My knee is now quite sore and a little bit swollen. However the curious bit is that a small lump has appeared on the top of the kneecap, yet I didn't bang it on anything.

Any clues? Am I broken?



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Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 10 Aug 06 at 11:38pm

Just like you said..... when you turned your leg the boot griped abit more than it should and the knee got twisted.

The lump is fluid - it is their because your knee is producing more of it to lubricate the joint incase you do it again.

You are broken, this is very serious. The lubricant (forgot the name - been out of the country for a while) and cartilidge are in balance. People who mess up this balance never seem to get it back again. Very common for footballers, distance runners and laser sailors who are too tall. You must get profesional help. Go and see your GP and demand to be refered to a hospital based sports physio'. If your GP works for the NHS he will be all cynical about the physio but just ignore that and push.

If the swelling goes and there is no pain and you can't be arsed anymore you must, must, must keep it mobile. In the old days experts and mothers used to say 'rest it'/'put your feet up'/etc. You must keep it mobile - that is swimming, cycling (none impact stuff) not road running, kick boxing or laser sailing.

There...... doctor Bumble has operated.



Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 10 Aug 06 at 11:49pm

Well that put a dampener on the evening. I suspect you're going to tell me that Gin & Tonic won't help either?

Seemed reasonably mobile after 15 minutes with an ice pack on it but seized up again quickly enough.



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Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 10 Aug 06 at 11:59pm

noooooo! Not an ice pack. Warm pack, and mobile. Mobile. Try and walk abit. A good G and T will steady the old nerves though. We wouldn't have managed to march to India and deliver cricket and Enterprises to the foreigners without a stiff GandT... And a decent moustach.

It is late. Have a drink.Keep it warm and moving. Tomorrow have a couple of asprin (great for muscle pain), and get some exercise.

Sorry - don't mean to dampen your sprits.



Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 8:08am

RICE

Rest

Ice

compression

Elevation



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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 8:13am
Originally posted by Bumble

The lubricant (forgot the name - been out of the country for a while) and cartilidge are in balance.

Synovial fluid

 

 

As I said in a different thread - if 25% of the information in my head was useful!!



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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 8:23am
I had an operation on my knee a couple of years ago for a wrecked cartilage(years of running and sailing !)They had me walking on it the next day even though it hurt!I would say you need to exercise it. I say this, but have no medical experience(engineer not doctor!) a visit to the physio is what I would suggest or give the physio department at your local Hospital a ring

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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 9:49am
Originally posted by Jon Emmett

RICE

Rest

Ice

compression

Elevation



NO!   RICE is great but NOT for this!  

You need to use heat, and mobility as opposed to compression.  Swimming is probably the best form of exercise in your state.


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Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 1:15pm

Also had a strange swelling in me knee once.  GP took a sample of said fluid, found blood, panicked and sent me off pronto to a joint specialist ....

 

...who diagnosed housemaids knee (pre-patella-bursitis) from kneeling of the floor playing with the kids! Tight bandage and a cortesone injection did the trick

Kneeling on the floor of the boat can bring it back.

Don't panic, but do see a GP

 



Posted By: tickel
Date Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 11:56pm
Bloody Hell the poor sod only banged his knee. Please keep us updated on medical progress leading up to the funeral. As a 60 year old joiner who spends half his life on his knees I must be a freak, still able to walk upright. Must be sailing and alchahol that cures it!

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Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 8:33am

I'll give you an update tonight tickel!

On the one hand, my dearly beloved wife, the only common sense in my life, has advised me not to do any sailing until I've been checked out by a sports therapist & generally take it easy.

On the other hand, she's gone to see her mother for the weekend and it's blowing 25 knots out there. Thinking about it, knee supports are made of neoprene, and people have said to keep mobile. So going sailing and then having a few ales is the best thing I could possibly do?

 

*limps off clutching the Ibuprofen....*



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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 11:26am
Good thinking, Fizz, I'd do the same, ask Contender443... Alcohol numbs the pain anyway.

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 5:19pm
Just think, you could have two great days sailing and only have to pay for it by being unable to sail for the next thirty years...


Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 9:28pm

Well I've had a great day in the boat and it doesn't hurt much more than it did on Thursday...

More beer.



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Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and
oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital
ingredient in beer.


Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 16 Aug 06 at 7:41pm

Nope! All seems okay in the knee department, although it feels like the kneecap is bruised even though it isn't.

Although I have to confess to having been hiking off one leg during the second day of that meeting!



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