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Topic: Quick question

Posted By: ifoxwell
Subject: Quick question
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 11:54am

When did the Scorpion hull change shape.

What sail number would i be looking for one of the new shape ones?

Thanks

Ian

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Posted By: IanW
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 12:33pm

It has not changed as far as i know.

Although there are tolerances and all Scorpions are built within them.

Jon Turner boats are particully sort after when looking at an older boat

Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 12:33pm

I may be wrong but i don't think it changed, i just think that Specialised/Ovington are building right at one end of the tolerences.

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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 1:01pm

Ian,

I have a few contacts in the class but they are all at Paignton at the minute for the nationals (might be worth popping down that way if you are close).

The Turner hulls are the ones to have of the older variety (I believe around 1830 + is when they became common).

As other have mentioned the hull shape hasn't changed it has just been 'optimised' within the rules and tolerances. If you look at John Mursells boat (1936) I believe it is getting on for 10 years old now and is still a nationals winning boat.

You will know them, they hold their value very well (£1,700+ for a 15/20 year old one in reasonable nick). Make sure you get the raking rig too.

Paul

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Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 2:05pm

Thanks for the tips.

I dont know what they did or when but the boats in the 1900's have less rocker and a more moden looking bow. Just wondered when this happened...

Sorry should have made myself clear after the latest devlopments that seemed to rocked the one design boat!

Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 3:33pm

Probably just optimised the hull shapes.

I crewed in 1867 at the nationals a few years back. The shape of that boat is the same as the 'post 1900' boats. The only other major devlopment was the adoption of a bag kite over a chute and split foredeck (personal taste but you do have less weight in the bow with a bagged kite).

There is another 1800s boat (1835 if memory serves) that always does well (I believe it is an early Turner).

Paul

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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 01 Aug 06 at 5:06pm

i wouldnt buy a pre 1900 scorpion as there were very few before this number with the new hull shape. When i had mine i found that my bag boat (1971) was much quicker and nicer to sail than my crews dads chute boat which was about a month newer (1974) and also built by jj

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