laser 4000 or laser vago or other
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Topic: laser 4000 or laser vago or other
Posted By: feva_sailor
Subject: laser 4000 or laser vago or other
Date Posted: 06 May 06 at 12:53pm
me and my crew have recently came second the uae nationals in a rs feva xl  we live in dubai and are both 14 and have previous experions on a laser 2 rs feva xl and topcat k1(both crewing)we were wondering were to go next as we are to heavy for fevas 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 May 06 at 5:10pm
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Well the laser 4000 although a good boat, you DO need to be a good size and have some muscle to sail one well. Have you thought about the 29er?? Im thinking at your age and probable build then this would be a good choice. Quick, fun, good for lightweights (by lighweights i mean Anything under 70kg) and if you're interested then they have a good international circuit too. Other options (for what im imagining your size to be) im thinking maybe the 420, the new V3000, Rs500. There's loads of choices really, just scroll through the Y&Y classes list and check out whats there. And have you considered sailing catamerans?? Doug |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 06 May 06 at 8:07pm
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4000, All the way!!! JUst get down the gym!! And if ur on rack setting 8, watch out 4 the gap lol ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 09 May 06 at 2:17pm
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we weigh toghether 150kg
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 May 06 at 10:51pm
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Well at that size you can sail a 49er!! What were you doing in a feva weighing 150kg all up?? |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 10 May 06 at 9:09am
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More to the point, what were you doing coming second in the nationals at that weight?? ------------- |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 10 May 06 at 11:25am
)it was a club boat so we were asked to sail it for our team in the nationals.we lost to a private feva them weighing 100kg all up!we beat a 49er on handicapwhen it was blowing 30 knots and 10ft waves(we had to sail off a beach with no breakwater  )There is a great picture of us with our spinniker off the pole and the other feva turtled infront of the burj al arab on thay day.
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Posted By: yellowhammer
Date Posted: 10 May 06 at 12:27pm
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29er looks not to have much buoyancy in the bows .. anyone know how it copes with waves? bet you get good reliable onshore sea breezes in dubai ... i sailed lasers in jedda on the red sea for 2 yrs ... flat warm sea, big steady breeze, salty so buoyant, no tide ... those were the days |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 11 May 06 at 5:30am
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Have you considered the 505, almost skiff performance, can be sailed at varying levels and the bow generally doesn't go down in waves unlike boats like the '9er range. Absolute blast to sail, good racing, can be really technical and very well suited to your wait range. The recent big kites mean that the boat has to be sailed like a skiff downwind utilising apparent wind. The only thing I didn't like about the boat is she is a little slowish upwind but most things feel that way in comparison to skiffs and considering the boat is over 50 years old, it is spot on! Have to add, 150kg is a good weight for a Laser 5000, and the bow on the 5k is fairly bouyant compared to other skiffs. ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 17 May 06 at 3:32pm
| no we dont want a symettrick kite and not a 5k(do u think us 2 14 year olds will handle a 5k)we have considered cats and weve decided against them |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 17 May 06 at 4:37pm
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If you are indeed 150 kg all up then the laser4000 would certainly be a good choice. Is a long lasting boat, Good Circuit, a weight equalisation system that covers a VERY broad weight range and more to the point is fun to sail. Cant go wrong really. Doug |
Posted By: gonzo
Date Posted: 28 May 06 at 7:34pm
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If your both crews and are looking at a skiff it would be good to get some helming experiance on something a little less high performance becuase with the loaction if it all goes wrong your gonna be on the break, water logo island or the plam as soon as you get out the harbour. Also think cost theres only one 4k at the club and it costs a lot to bring in try developing the fleet you have for now and increasing the laser 2 fleet to go out agian. You could try and get the 29er in Abu Dhabi but its been there a while and if its not covered up the carbon mast and pole will be liable to break which could cost a few quid to replace. ------------- Go Big or Go home or sail a 49er!!! |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 2:39pm
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were not both crews.we sail jasc 8 the feva and came second in the uae nationals!we also sailed laser 2 and hobie 405.my understanding is that ither tom hemmingway/jamie eldrige or tom/guy wolfden getting the 29er ------------- |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 2:40pm
james hoe did u ever get the name gonzo?  ------------- |
Posted By: gonzo
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 4:25pm
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There were only 4 boats in the UAE natioanls and the 2 49ers only raced 2 of the 4 rounds so it wasnt hard for you to come second was it. ------------- Go Big or Go home or sail a 49er!!! |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 4:33pm
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Mocked.
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Posted By: gonzo
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 5:18pm
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Isis, did read that you were 18 and obviously finished your a levels are you off to Uni? Which uni are you going to and what do you reckon is a good fleet to get into that has people our age preferably some of the female kind as well (just makes it that bit nicer to look at instead of a bunch wet salty blokes in short wet salty girls in bikinis is far nicer sight) sorry girls ------------- Go Big or Go home or sail a 49er!!! |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 5:33pm
Not finished unfortunately mate, got about a month left... Looking at either Southampton or Strathclyde for naval architecture/marine engineering hopefully. Im assuming your talking about which class to get into as a student here? Cant beat cherubs for the great bunch of people but there is a rather large male bias unfortunately. The totty quality of any fleet will depend quite a lot on where you are so if your moving over here and thinking about switching classes id choose based on boat and cross your fingers on the rest. ------------- |
Posted By: gonzo
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 7:13pm
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Well i also have a month left first exam on the 13th geography then 7 hours of exams on the 16th really cant wait. Should be at Plymouth with Hurricane so trying to persuade him to go from 2 hulls to one small one on a 49er if possible. If you go to Southampton might see you down there some time as i got a good mate down there who sailes 49ers. ------------- Go Big or Go home or sail a 49er!!! |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 7:17pm
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You count a 9er as 'one small hull'? Theyre huge!! You need some moth action in your life bud  ------------- |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 7:36pm
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Hey Isis if you go from a 5000 to a 49er it's small!!
------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 11:26pm
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Isn't anything big when you compare it to a 12 foot boat???? ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 11:31pm
A http://www.skiffs.org.uk/ - 6 foot boat isnt ------------- |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 11:32pm
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.........touche ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 11:34pm
Sorry Ben, happy birthday mate, got caught up this weekend steering a 4k ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 11:50pm
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Haha cheers bud I wont ask what you were doing near a 4k... ------------- |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 29 May 06 at 11:58pm
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Got Kita wet on Friday, that was funny......(on the boat) ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 10:51am
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Hmmm okay
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Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 11:03am
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Yeah you teabagged me you devil! ....again this was the sailing teabag!!! and tipped us in on a gybe!!! then I have control of the mainsheet MUWHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 12:38pm
overall there was 50!including abu dhabi ------------- |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 12:50pm
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and i sailed the crewed tabby cat in 2 races of the nats(a topcat) ------------- |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 2:55pm
Haha, I teabagged Kita, it was really good fun.....even though it was an accident ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
.............Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 6:18pm
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yeah sure it was honey! anyway.....I got you all sticky with wax ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 7:45pm
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------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 10:14pm
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LOL!!! You luuuuurved playing with my long, silky hair....well...that was how it was b4 u knotted it all up! I'll post them when my blasted cd drive will accept the cd which theyre on!!!
------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 30 May 06 at 10:23pm
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In the banter section luv ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 07 Jun 06 at 9:42pm
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now now u guys anyone would of thought u are a married couple. (sorry if i have let out ur little secret!) ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 07 Jun 06 at 9:54pm
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............Luke, Kita's looking out the bolt-cutters.................... ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |