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Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: Cars and boats
Posted By: getafix
Subject: Cars and boats
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 12:44pm
Big boys toys eh... cars and boats seem to have a lot in common, we
were talking about this over a few beverages the other night.. compare
car culture with dinghy culture...
Cherub - like fitting mad body kit to old-school Vxl Nova and Nitrous
Oxide tanks, goes like heck (in bursts), looks good from afar but still
a Nova at the end of the day 
or
Merlin Rocket - like a Jag XKR8, fast, elegant, very english and driven by lawyers, barristers and accountants!
I think we could have some harmless fun with this one... my favorite
was the comparison between Laser and new Mini Cooper - you really
wanted one once because they looked like fun but now everyones got one!
------------- Feeling sorry for vegans since it became the latest fad to claim you are one
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Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 12:47pm
oooo, deja vu..... 
Scarey
p.s. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3 44&PN=3&TPN=1
------------- Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 2:26pm
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
Me ...
Musto Skiff & Honda Civic Type R.
Both light, fast, well engineered and never break even when thrashed ...
Rick
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 2:35pm
Int Moth & Cherub & Renault Clio 1.6
All tiny and surprisingly nippy for the price? cant do much better than that..
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Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 3:13pm
Laser 5000 and currently carless Time for Les to mention his new car.. again! Isis isn't a 1.6 a bit big for a young male driver? Cost me about £100 a month in insurance to be added to my mum's 1.8 306...
------------- RS800 GBR848
Weston SC
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 3:21pm
Its silly-big for a first car but surprisingly cheep to insure, was
about £1400 when I first got it on a provisional, renewals comming up
next month and expecting it to be closer to £1000 this time round
Quinn Direct - their prices reflect their service but its oh-so worth it...
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
Me ...
Musto Skiff & Honda Civic Type R.
Both light, fast, well engineered and never break even when thrashed ...
Rick
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As an ex CTR owner I'm allowed to say this. Lovely car when new, now driven by ****s.
------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 3:58pm
RS600 and old shape Subaru Impreza -
Quick but not that refined, a bit rough round the edges, makes lots of noise and lots of fuss about it but loads of fun!
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 4:15pm
Uh, oh, there does seem to be a link, though so far we have only heard from fast boat sailors...Firefly, British Moth and Citroen ZX desiel estate....Hmmm there does seem to be a pattern here!
Or should I have lied to look cool?!
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by tack'ho
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
Me ...
Musto Skiff & Honda Civic Type R.
Both light, fast, well engineered and never break even when thrashed ...
Rick
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As an ex CTR owner I'm allowed to say this. Lovely car when new, now driven by ****s.
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Bit of a sweeping and ignorant response ...
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by turnturtle
Originally posted by Guest#260
Originally posted by tack'ho
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
Me ...
Musto Skiff & Honda Civic Type R.
Both light, fast, well engineered and never break even when thrashed ...
Rick
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As an ex CTR owner I'm allowed to say this. Lovely car when new, now driven by ****s.
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Bit of a sweeping and ignorant response ...
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****s = girls...
sorry rick it appears you have a girls car... and a girls boat according to last week's thread as apparently there's not enough canvas on an MPS... oh well back to 'ard boy school for you for a refresher course in manly pursuits... sorry mate.
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That wasn't my take on that abbrevation ...
... and if there are lots of girls out there that wish to sail MPS we'd be more than happy to show them the ropes.
Rick
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
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I unfortunately don't have a lot of choice in the matter. I drive a clio 1.9 Diesel as that is all i can afford. It was donated by my mates dad when i pranged my old car and I can't afford to buy anything else! She's a beauty though, does at least 10p a mile however she is driven, has the torque to tow a stacker, has looks most so called sports cars would kill for and she has rust..... perfect.
oh.... and i have a cherub (can't win 'em all eh?!) 
------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN
Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 4:44pm
Dont have a car at the moment. But my Dad in a moment of extreme stupidity has not only agreed to lend me his car for a month but also put my (student) crew on his insurense so we can do laps of the country with a boat.
Sonetimes I really love my Dad 
------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!......
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by timnoyce
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
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I unfortunately don't have a lot of choice in the matter. I drive a clio 1.9 Diesel as that is all i can afford. It was donated by my mates dad when i pranged my old car and I can't afford to buy anything else! She's a beauty though, does at least 10p a mile however she is driven, has the torque to tow a stacker, has looks most so called sports cars would kill for and she has rust..... perfect.
oh.... and i have a cherub (can't win 'em all eh?!) 
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Of course you have a choice ... everything in life is a choice (apart from health; and we can make significant choices over that) ... your current position is a function of the choices you have made to date; there are others who have made different choices and have perhaps different options.
There is no right & wrong but for sure there is plenty of choice in life ...
Rick
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 5:26pm
Originally posted by turnturtle
Originally posted by Guest#260
That wasn't my take on that abbrevation ...
... and if there are lots of girls out there that wish to sail MPS we'd be more than happy to show them the ropes.
Rick
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sounds like a good plan- afterall the crew weight seems inconsequential compared to boat handling and tactical skill.
Doesn't the class survey show a very broad weight range?
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Data is here .... http://www.mustoskiff.com/facts-and-figures.htm - http://www.mustoskiff.com/facts-and-figures.htm
At the recent MPS open at Rutland the range in the top 4 was 64 - 88kgs.
Rick
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 5:34pm
Bonezzi Contender-Morgan Plus Eight... scary, powerful, and the fact it's wood does not matter one iota
Wayfarer-Hummer H2-fat...slow, and heavy
Cherub-Caterham Seven...raced by enthusiasts every weekend, loads of carbon, fast but tiring, wander round the paddock/boatpark and no two look the same
RS600-Subaru Impreza...for fast, lairy, and oh look they're cheap now I think I'll get one...
18' skiff-TVR Tuscan...takes off like nothing on earth but be careful, it will either break or you will crash it
Laser-Saxo VTR...everyone's bloody got one. Just add bass box/neons/spoilers/gorilla tiller/XD kit as approproiate and kid yourself you will now go faster than your mate
Solo-VW Golf GTi Mk1...similar to the Saxo above but older and far better
Flying Fifteen-Rover 75...'nuff sed...
Int Moth-Lotus Elise...both share the design philosophy "if you want to go fast add lightness"
Foiling Moth-Lotus Exige S...both loony speed versions of the original
Swift Solo-Westfield SEi...built from kits by people in sheds
Fireball-Land Rover 90...very old design, still looks the nuts as it's been updated...never breaks and will not stop no matter what conditions you throw at it
Merlin Rocket-Aston Martin DB9...very, very cool and owned by rich people
RS400-MGB Roadster...looks good but a lot of hard work for your fun and not actually that quick
Hobie cat-Vauxhall Monaro...big scary aussie that goes very quick but will eiother be flying a hull or going sideways
RS200-Toyota MR2 Mk2...quite easy to get out of shape in the corners
Wanderer-VW Bus...great for camping
Xenon/Omega/RS500-Avensis/Mondeo/Vectra...all look the bloody same to me
Oppie-Nova...we all had one...
Cheers!!
------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"
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Posted By: allanorton
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 6:14pm
Feva - Reliant Robin 
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by allanorton
Feva - Reliant Robin  |
Nah mate, the Reliant is a proper hand lay up chop strand job, where the Feva is rotomoulded...
------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 6:43pm
Got a cherub but i'm stuck with a 1 litre polo its all i could afford to insure (though it has got a far from standard sound system!), both small, not exactly quiet and no where near standard though the cherubs definatly quicker than the car!
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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 7:38pm
Alfa 145 Cloverleaf and Int Moth... Expensive to insure, painfull servicing, but both rather good fun...
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Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by Iain C
Originally posted by allanorton
Feva - Reliant Robin  |
Nah mate, the Reliant is a proper hand lay up chop strand job, where the Feva is rotomoulded...
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ahem,,, not very nice! and ive not seen any feva sailors with a reliant anyway!
oppie -- uh VOLVO ESTATE!!!
------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...)
Feva 251
RS200 1117
RS200 897
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by aardvark_issues
Alfa 145 Cloverleaf and Int Moth... Expensive to insure, painfull servicing, but both rather good fun...
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could also say, both likely to have bits fly off without warning at
speed... ex alfa owner meeself, nice noise, nice looks, friday
afternoon after the pub build quality ... luv it 
------------- Feeling sorry for vegans since it became the latest fad to claim you are one
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Posted By: ali g innit
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:00pm
Nissan Skyline, lowered wiv wide boy tail pipe... cherub 97 rules....
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by ali g innit
Nissan Skyline, lowered wiv wide boy tail pipe... cherub 97 rules....
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Bless...
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:11pm
Originally posted by Pondling
Originally posted by Iain C
Originally posted by allanorton
Feva - Reliant Robin  |
Nah mate, the Reliant is a proper hand lay up chop strand job, where the Feva is rotomoulded...
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ahem,,, not very nice! and ive not seen any feva sailors with a reliant anyway!
oppie -- uh VOLVO ESTATE!!!
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Know quite a few sailors who have Volvo estates and sail 49ers
Even know of a mate who hopefully just picked up a very nice Audi Estate ( Les)
What you find is estate cars suit sailing very well as you can actually fit sails in them without them being crushed up against the wind-screen giving you little room to change gear or pull up the hand-brake.
------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:22pm
Just dont stop then ... think of the gearstick as a "set and forget" control, and just use the accelerator and clutch for speed control!
Or alternatley .. just put most of the kit in the boat. Why waste all that empty space?
Oh .. and RS Vareo and no car yet! (Havnt even started learning tbh )
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:26pm
Yeah but you don't tow the boat everytime you sail, and leaving kit on the boat is not the best of ideas. Thank god we have a box trailer to chuck everything in or we'd be dragging big sails and stuff on to the ferry everytime we go sailing, and its a very, very small ferry we get.
------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ -
Helensburgh S.C
http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine
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Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:43pm
Driving advice from someone who hasn't started to learn to drive yet  Also have a feeling the kit for a Vareo will take up a bit less space than 5k or 49er kit! My laser kit would easily fit in the boot of my 306, my 5000 stuff easily filled the car... twice over 
------------- RS800 GBR848
Weston SC
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Posted By: billpayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 8:54pm
Iain C list was right on the money, liked it very much, especially the Wayfarer bit. Too true, brought by people who think they need the space, then realise they can't get it's fat a*** down the slipway/driveway.
As for the oppie, must be a Ford Escort (for you who remember Escorts), just jump in and go, bump into anything and everything, indistructable and if bits fall off, just bung in and old broom handle/spare spar lots of duct tape or anything to hand and it just keeps going............
I have a diesel estate, so I'm not about to break any new barriers.
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 9:06pm
Yeh .. im more of an "ideas" person than an actual "doing" person!
And yes, The vareo kit doesnt take a lot of space at all .. but you can leave the sails in most boats anyway as the cover can keep them in it .. that way the only space your using in the car is for the foils ... unless you leave them in the hull as well :D
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers
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Posted By: tickel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 9:46pm
I own this Tasar thing now, slightly old fashioned high tech and fast. Wish I could pair it with one of my sadly demised old Citroen CX 's. Now we have ancient Vauxhall Diesel Estate, very worthy. Mind you for the last couple of seasons we did tour the land towing my sons Lightning 368 with a red...............Fiat Panda. Cool ,as you young people say , or what! Did anybody ever see us?
------------- tickel
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Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 10:03pm
I own a Cherub and a Fiesta
Both of them get ragged into the ground until something breaks
The difference is I know how to fix the boat....
------------- Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 11:09pm
Hurricane 5.9sx and golf 1.6
------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats!
RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 06 Apr 06 at 11:29pm
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
Me ...
Musto Skiff & Honda Civic Type R.
Both light, fast, well engineered and never break even when thrashed ...
Rick |
Sorry, I posted an epic list of car/boat comparisons without reading Rick's post properly! D'oh!!!
Fireball and a company VW Bora TDi. (But the 150bhp 6 speed version!!) Reliable, understated, looks slightly dated but goes like b*ggery which people are not expecting!
My Cherub's alter ago was my old Alfa 156...great looking but known for dubious build quality/bits falling off. Plan is to get an Elise this year...also dubious build quality/bits fall off, but small, light, uncomfortable and bloody quick!!
------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 7:53am
Originally posted by Guest#260
Originally posted by tack'ho
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
Me ...
Musto Skiff & Honda Civic Type R.
Both light, fast, well engineered and never break even when thrashed ...
Rick
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As an ex CTR owner I'm allowed to say this. Lovely car when new, now driven by ****s.
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Bit of a sweeping and ignorant response ...
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Sorry couldn't resist seeing if I would get a bite and holey moley its a whale
Seriously though the CTR has the best gear box I have ever driven, and that list includes Porsches, Mercs, BMWs (none of which were mine!).
------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 8:09am
Jetski |
BMW 3 series |
A waste of space on the water |
Drive in the middle lane |
Turn without warning |
Never use indicators |
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 8:12am
Originally posted by Mark Jardine
Jetski |
BMW 3 series |
A waste of space on the water |
Drive in the middle lane |
Turn without warning |
Never use indicators |
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Wrong!!!!
BMW's use the BMW lane... (sometimes referred to as the outside lane or lane 3)
------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"
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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 8:13am
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 9:48am
IMO...
BMW's use whatever lane they please, indication is optional as are brake lights, insurance and MOT (if applicable).
They do get mighty surprised when my little green estate blows past them though ;-)
Paul
------------- Paul
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D-Zero GBR 74
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 9:52am
laser vago and vauxhall astra --- not the best but their owners seem to think their gods gift when their in them!
------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats!
RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 10:21am
Originally posted by hurricane
laser vago and vauxhall astra --- not the best but their owners seem to think their gods gift when their in them! |
Tee hee.....amen to that!
------------- Paul
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D-Zero GBR 74
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Posted By: wetndry
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 10:45am
My first car was an ancient mini and my first boat an equally basic mirror of similar vintage. Furthermore, in my first month of ownership I managed to put a large dent in the wing or the mini and a hole in the bow of the mirror. With a bit of patching the car could still be driven and the boat sailed.
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Posted By: wetndry
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 10:47am
Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 2:30pm
Dont think mine match up
Musto skiff, new and very well looked after and an old VW transporter van def not new and badly looked after.
but I would rather spend my cash and get my adrenalin fix by going fast on the water rather than by breaking the law on the road...
------------- Ian (Bov) Turnbull
18ft Skiff Ronstan UK
http://www.ianturnbullmarine.co.uk - Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk
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Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 4:04pm
dont u find that the old beat up cars carry amazingly nice boats?
------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...)
Feva 251
RS200 1117
RS200 897
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by Pondling
dont u find that the old beat up cars carry amazingly nice boats? |
Yeah, cos why spend money on the car as long as it runs when you could spend it on the boat instead.
------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!......
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Posted By: allanorton
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 4:57pm
Laser II / Ford Cortina - used to be loads of them about, now you hardly ever see one.
or,
Osprey / VW Beetle - good old classic, recently re-vamped, new model not so popular with original owners
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Posted By: combat wombat
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 5:28pm
My turbo diesel Ford Focus doesn't really go with my B14, but you can squeeze a B14 main in it (right down the passenger footwell, touching the back window!)
B14's alter-ego would be the old-school Audi Quattro - one of the first true performance cars, big and powerful and still faster than everything modern except a small minority. Basic engineering relying on sheer power to provide speed!
------------- B14 GBR 772
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by Iain C
Originally posted by allanorton
Feva - Reliant Robin  |
Nah mate, the Reliant is a proper hand lay up chop strand job, where the Feva is rotomoulded...
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you dont know how rong you are. the reliant wont go round corners at speed. the feva doesnt break easily either, all the reliants ive seen have been falling apart. and fevas arent outdated lumps of rust.
edit: anyone noticed how lukes being realy quiet on this thread?
------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by combat wombat
B14's alter-ego would be the old-school Audi Quattro - one of the first true performance cars, big and powerful and still faster than everything modern except a small minority. Basic engineering relying on sheer power to provide speed!
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Mybe a UR Quattro, but they are as rare as Rocking horse poo ! I14's are not 
I've got an Impreza WRX. Goes like stink, kick in the back acceleration and will bite you if you get it wrong; Very nimble around the corners and a Joy in Snow.
My Inter 17 is not quite so nimble around the corners and I don't like sailing in the Snow. Otherwise very similar
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Posted By: Philsy
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 6:59pm
Originally posted by Guest#260
Originally posted by timnoyce
Originally posted by Guest#260
Perhaps this time round rather than speculating over likley pairings we
can name our own choices to see if there is any actual linkage ...
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I unfortunately don't have a lot of choice in the matter. I drive a clio 1.9
Diesel as that is all i can afford. It was donated by my mates dad when i
pranged my old car and I can't afford to buy anything else! She's a beauty
though, does at least 10p a mile however she is driven, has the torque to
tow a stacker, has looks most so called sports cars would kill for and she
has rust..... perfect.
oh.... and i have a cherub (can't win 'em all eh?!) 
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Of course you have a choice ... everything in life is a choice (apart from
health; and we can make significant choices over that) ... your current
position is a function of the choices you have made to date; there are
others who have made different choices and have perhaps different
options.
There is no right & wrong but for sure there is plenty of choice in life ...
Rick |
Blimey, that's a bit deep for such a shallow thread See my signature
link for my favoured wheels. Sadly, don't have one any more...
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 7:21pm
Oh and by the way guys Luke has been teaching sailing all week so hasnt had acess to a pc recentely. But we either tow the 4k with a mondeo or a Vauxhall cavalier. Boat and cars both average performance but a lot of boat/car for your money's worth.
------------- Greatfully Sponsored By
www.allgoodfun.com
Int 14 GBR 1503!!
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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 8:57pm
Umm Lancia beta Spider (great car doesn't brake down often still in the garage! )
and a 49er
(well have a real car for every day A4 Avant tdi )
------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)!
http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
edit: anyone noticed how lukes being realy quiet on this thread?
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yer have been teaching little kiddies how to sail. means i can buy some more boat goodies for the 4tonner.
wouldnt it be funny it someone had a farrai or something equally fast and got a tow bar and had to scream along at 60 with the boat on the back!! 
------------- International 14 1503
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 9:24pm
My main transport has always been a bike, and I've moved from Cherubs to Canoes. Less horsepower and a lot less weight and size has always appealed to me. As the sticker went:-
"Your other car may be a Porsche, but my bike will p**s on that too."
As for 4 wheeled things, whatever has a towbar does me. The most I've ever spent n a car is 200 quid.
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 9:34pm
on the subject of boats and bike's i think my little scooter is very similar to a cherub
loud, short, made with superglue, had carbon weave on it even if it is a sticker, also it can be updated with new exhaust just like u guys upgradeing ur sails etc,also the chavs have got very good and breacking them/building them again!!  
------------- International 14 1503
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Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 10:49pm
I really liked Iain C's list. Here's a few more:
Contender - Audi URQuattro (the original turbonutter motor)
National 12 - Triumph TR4 - beautiful, makes all the right noises, their owners spend a fortune on them, not actually that quick.
GP14 - Volvo 240 estate - Big fat & ugly. Available in go faster form.
Scorpion - Mazda MX5 - Owners love it, invariably owned by tiny people.
Enterprise - Volvo C70 - Once it's going it has colossal momentum. Misguided individuals think its sporty
Javelin - Bentley Arnage - Huge, heavy, scary when its bearing down on you, astoundingly fast and beautiful in a traditional way
I14 - Porsche 911 Turbo - various generations, all classics, all scary.
BOSS - Porsche 928 - The be all and end all when it came out. Fat, overweight and misguided in retrospect.
Heron - Volvo 340. zzzzzzzz
For the record I sail an RS300 and drive a BMW 1 series. Controversial looks, great handling and goes reasonably quickly. Both have a fat arse...
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 07 Apr 06 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by les5269
Umm Lancia beta Spider (great car doesn't brake down often still in the garage! )
and a 49er
(well have a real car for every day A4 Avant tdi )
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Les, I did not know you had that. Mate In Geneva had An Integrale 'till about 12 months ago.
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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 8:25am
Originally posted by Scooby_simon
Originally posted by les5269
Umm Lancia beta Spider (great car doesn't brake down often still in the garage! )
and a 49er
(well have a real car for every day A4 Avant tdi )
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Les, I did not know you had that. Mate In Geneva had An Integrale 'till about 12 months ago.
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It hasn't made it to the club yet! Love Intergrales but they're a bit much as a second car
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 10:55am
Originally posted by les5269
Originally posted by Scooby_simon
Originally posted by les5269
Umm Lancia beta Spider (great car doesn't brake down often still in the garage! )
and a 49er
(well have a real car for every day A4 Avant tdi )
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Les, I did not know you had that. Mate In Geneva had An Integrale 'till about 12 months ago.
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It hasn't made it to the club yet! Love Intergrales but they're a bit much as a second car
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Indeed, he had a short wheelbase 3 door. 
If the Beta ever does make it let me know; I'd love a snoop around it...
Sold it for an Bimmer CSL and a Smart car as a daily driver !!!!!
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Posted By: damp_freddie
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 1:28pm
are MGs really all that bad a car?
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 3:12pm
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 8:05pm
Now that's embaressing!  
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Posted By: tickel
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 9:13pm
We had a G.P.14 open to day and one guy ( he may have won) was towing his G.P. with one of those Toyota sportscar things , Celicia? about the size of a little MG. That all seemed a little incongurous bugger the Volvos!
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 9:32pm
Ok, Whats the most extreme car thing people have seen towing boats?
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 10:08pm
Rover Metro towing a 5k!
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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 10:48pm

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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 11:08pm
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 8:04pm
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull
Ok, Whats the most extreme car thing people have seen towing boats? |
Black 911 Turbo towing a Tornado 
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Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 9:16pm
In Sydney John Winning towes his 18ft Skiff behind his Rolls Royce
Could not belive my eyes when he pulled up it just looked so odd
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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 10:04pm
My old man used to tow a 1/4 tonner behind a Jag! What was really crazy
was that they had to tow the boat heeled over to fit in height or
something silly like that...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 10:05pm
I bet the Rolls Royce dealer wasnt too impressed when he asked to have a towbar attached!!
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Posted By: phantom_iv
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by Doug.H
I bet the Rolls Royce dealer wasnt too impressed when he
asked to have a towbar attached!! |
Bet he didn't care, given the comission he was on!
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 09 Apr 06 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
Originally posted by Iain C
Originally posted by allanorton
Feva - Reliant Robin  |
Nah mate, the Reliant is a proper hand lay up chop strand job, where the Feva is rotomoulded...
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you dont know how rong you are. the reliant wont go round corners at speed. the feva doesnt break easily either, all the reliants ive seen have been falling apart. and fevas arent outdated lumps of rust.
edit: anyone noticed how lukes being realy quiet on this thread? |
Er...I think you're missing the point...Reliants don't rust. They're made of fibreglass...
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Posted By: Dave389
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 1:51am
Landrover Defender pulling any of the following Tornado, Hurricane 5.9 or ISO
very occasionally with a pico on the roof.
may not be fast but it gets me there
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Posted By: Skiffe
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by carshalton fc
wouldnt it be funny it someone had a farrai or something equally fast and got a tow bar and had to scream along at 60 with the boat on the back!! 
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Who said you need some piece of euro trash to go at 60mph. I have towed my 12 at well above the speed limit which is 110km/h,(68mph), Have been booked at 130km/h and got let off. And have been to 140km/h+
Tow vehicle Worked Ford Fairlane like a Vaxhall Monoro.
Don't try this at home or on the street unless you are a professional
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Posted By: Skiffe
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 12:26pm
BMW M3 Towing a 12. Has just replaced a Saab
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Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 12:56pm
A bit late joining this one....
Contender - Astra Turbo Diesel Estate.
Not sure what that says about me but I'm sure someone will tell me.
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Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by Black no sugar
he's still very fond of the old Midget sitting in the garage. |
Does he not let you in the house anymore then? 
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 1:21pm
Last season borrowed FD with a Seat Leon
This season FD with a borrowed Skoda Octavia
Need to go car shopping......
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Posted By: TheDuke
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 1:33pm
Saw a very snotty Porsche Dealer on Saturday
The conversation went thus:
"How much for a tow bar to be fitted?"
"Sir, you can't fit tow bars to any Porsche - not even the Cayenne!!"
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 3:00pm
What is the legal speed limit for towing a boat in the UK? I don't tend to drive any slower when i have the boat as the beast copes with it just fine. Perfectly balanced trailer means i have to keep looking in the rear view mirror to check the boat is still there as it is so hard to tell!
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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 3:04pm
I think it's 50 mph...but yeah like we do that!
To be honest the one that catches people out is towing in lane 3 of a motorway (tut tut) or not actually having a trailer entitlement on your license if you only passed your test in the past few years.
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 3:11pm
hmmmm, trailer entitlement? I'd better keep the beard so that I look a bit more vintage in the eyes of the old bill then just in case!
I've been known to have achieved more than a tonne with the cherub in tow... it was only to prove a point when overtaking an idiot in a bodykitted nova though so I think that makes it legal.
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Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 3:46pm
You don't need the trailer entitlement to tow a dinghy, provided it's under 750kg! The limit when towing is 60 on dual carriageway/motorway and 50 on single carriageway.
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by timnoyce
hmmmm, trailer entitlement? I'd better keep the beard so that I look a bit more vintage in the eyes of the old bill then just in case!
I've been known to have achieved more than a tonne with the cherub in tow... it was only to prove a point when overtaking an idiot in a bodykitted nova though so I think that makes it legal. |
I've outdragged Saxo's etc away from the lights in the Impreza with the boat on the back just to prove a point....should have seen their eyes.... And his chavvy Girlfriend in the back was giggling her head off when her "cool" boyfriend, in his "cool" car, was made to look an idiot....
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 11 Apr 06 at 12:30pm
you deserve a medal for being able to humiliate chavs like that
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 11 Apr 06 at 12:39pm
amazing how many of these fantastic efforts are out there... just 'cos
you stuck a big spoiler on it mate, it's still a crappy nova
underneath, just like big bass speakers in the back shelf - cool if
you've got a car you want to have people look at you in, not cool if
you're crusing the high street in a badly bodged fiesta
... now where did I put that spray paint I need to touch up the sharks teeth under the bow????
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Posted By: Dave389
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 12:55am
Originally posted by BBSCFaithfull
Ok, Whats the most extreme car thing people have seen towing boats? |
One bloke i know used to pull a hurricane 5.9 behind a Fiat punto
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Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 8:24am
I used to have an old Tasar (which was light), an old road trailor (which wasn't) and a 1.0 Fiesta (which was crap).
I was picking up the boat and struggled to get up Detling Hill (Kent) towing the trailor only! At one point I had to change down to 1st gear and the rest of the journey was just as much fun.
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Posted By: Philsy
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 8:30am
Originally posted by TheDuke
Saw a very snotty Porsche Dealer on Saturday
The conversation went thus:
"How much for a tow bar to be fitted?"
"Sir, you can't fit tow bars to any Porsche - not even the Cayenne!!"
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Not true - Cayenne can take a towbar
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Posted By: Dead Air
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 9:16am
And you too could tow your dinghy at 155mph (restricted!)
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Posted By: Chris 249
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 10:25am
"Ok, Whats the most extreme car thing people have seen towing boats?"
Extreme in a bad way? I used to tow a Flying Fifteen with a 990 cc
Daihatsu Charade - up one of the most notorious hills around (ie about
3km long, and steep enough that it used to get used by mags testing 4WD
towing capacity).
I love the smell of clutches in the morning...........
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 11:04am
saw a Morgan (old one at that) being used to tow a big fishing
powerboat once, that was amusing... also saw a 21ft trailer
sailer (big ugly thing) being towed down the A30 by a clapped out
Citroen two summers ago
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 11:06am
ps... love those old road trailers that were built by well meaning
civil engineeers in their backgardens,,, you know the ones, they
weighed more than your boat and car together and sank into the tarmac
or ground in the boatpark!
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Posted By: BigFatStan
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 2:13pm
Towing insanities I have committed
J24 behind a Peugeot 405 1.6L - Edinburgh to Lymington and back (company car, needed new piston rings after 20,000 miles - I never let on why)
Osprey behind (at various times) an 850 Mini, an MGBGT and Lymington to Dundee behind a TR6... (now that looked pretty cool... and there was a keg of beer in the boat to add to the fun).
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Posted By: TheDuke
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by Philsy
Originally posted by TheDuke
Saw a very snotty Porsche Dealer on Saturday
The conversation went thus:
"How much for a tow bar to be fitted?"
"Sir, you can't fit tow bars to any Porsche - not even the Cayenne!!"
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Not true - Cayenne can take a towbar |
Well the Porsche centre said no, and I was surprised at that. I checked What Car, and the Towing Wieght was set at NA. So I took them at their word.
Not that it matters, as I didnt want a Cayenne.
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 3:12pm
i saw a cayenne towing a caravan last week so you must be able to get them retro fitted!
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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 12 Apr 06 at 4:53pm
i have been towing my international 14 behind my 1lt uno. quite a feat it has a whole 45bhp. i am soo proud it is losing a lot of wieght tho due to the rust. and has a massive system in the boot so there is harly any room for gear at the moment. am looking at an old school volvo estate for the new boat or a old landie. but may just see how long the uno can cope.
oh and the towing speed is 60 if no one has mentioned it.
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