extreme optimist
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Topic: extreme optimist
Posted By: Javelin53
Subject: extreme optimist
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 1:10pm
has anyone other than me ever considered putting a huge rig, wings and trapeze on an optimist hull  ------------- I hoped the threat would be enough! JAVELIN 53 ENTERPRISE 16691,RESTORATION JOB TOPPER 29388 BUCKENHAM SC |
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Posted By: Ellie
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 1:36pm
| complete with umpa lumpa crew that recently escaped from the choc factory! |
Posted By: Javelin53
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 2:35pm
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is that a one-off or is there a class of giant oppies. lol ------------- I hoped the threat would be enough! JAVELIN 53 ENTERPRISE 16691,RESTORATION JOB TOPPER 29388 BUCKENHAM SC |
Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 2:38pm
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Photoshop m8 ------------- 
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 4:14pm
| I keep thinking I should make a solid wing sail - an articulated thing like the C Class Cats have - for a Topper... |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 4:17pm
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to be honist it would be a waste of time oppies are the most none extreme boat ever. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Chew my RS
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 4:21pm
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I seem to remeber it takes 17 children to sink an Oppie! By the way, what weighs nothing but can sink a boat?
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Posted By: Javelin53
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 6:58pm
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yeah and gullable was removed from the dictionary last year ------------- I hoped the threat would be enough! JAVELIN 53 ENTERPRISE 16691,RESTORATION JOB TOPPER 29388 BUCKENHAM SC |
Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 7:01pm
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well lets be honest here, if oppi's (which 'arent the same as oppies') are coming with free CRASH helmets, they must be lol ------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...) Feva 251 RS200 1117 RS200 897 |
Posted By: Javelin53
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 7:03pm
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u joking, how sad people have become ------------- I hoped the threat would be enough! JAVELIN 53 ENTERPRISE 16691,RESTORATION JOB TOPPER 29388 BUCKENHAM SC |
Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 7:09pm
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see y and y home page... roosters new product... omg ------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...) Feva 251 RS200 1117 RS200 897 |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 7:13pm
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well some sailing centres have introduced helmets to sail in, it is just like skiing cos some skiing resorts the kids have to wear helmets and if u think about it it is a good idea to get kids wearing helmets not that a hit on the head with the boom ever did me any harm ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 7:34pm
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others may have differing opinions on that... you do ask for it... on the subject of crash helmets - i was once made to wear one, being under 16. However my head was way lower than the boom at that point and it was my dad and the instructor who needed the helmets... ------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 7:48pm
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An oppy? why bother???! get with the times... Oppys are a good 8 foot long... if your going to do something silly, like stick a huuuge rig on a tiny boat you might as well do it properly. http://www.6ft.flatwater.co.uk/ - 6 FOOT SKIFFS ------------- |
Posted By: charlie w
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 11:10pm
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The worst accident I can remember from my time in Oppies was when someone dislocated their shoulder as the boat gybed with their arm stuck between the boom and the centreboard. Perhaps they should go the whole 9 yards and insist on a bouyant american footballer's getup for each sailor? That would at least give the little darlings (and their parents) the option to bring "fashion" into the equation - clearly a winner....! ------------- Quality never goes out of fashion. |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 11:13am
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yeah but have you seen the helmet - it says 'bike equipment' on it. but does apear to be linked to sailing by the waves on it. all over floatation suits sounds like a plan no more screaming kids ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 11:28am
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worth noting though that kids heads are soft and squishy, bones haven't fused properly yet. So a little extra protection can sometimes be approprite, the Gaff hats look quite unobtrusive for kids. ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 11:38am
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It disabled your ability to punctuate... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 4:57pm
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He must still have a few punctuating brain cells left because i'm pretty sure ive located a comma somewhere in there!
------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 5:09pm
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an oppie would bend itself in half if you put a big rig on it. why not get a moderately larger sail (say 10-11msq) and but hydrofoils on it ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 5:11pm
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moderately larger?!? the oppie sail at the mo is about 3.5msq! ------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 5:24pm
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i know i was being slightly sarcastic. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 30 Mar 06 at 6:47pm
turnturtle - i think it was luke's grammar, not a coma? 
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: billpayer
Date Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 11:16am
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A good size (6-6.5) windsurfer rig might well work. This sounds like a good challenge on the way to a performance oppie, I'll think I'll have a go this summer and get my daughter to try it. As for crash helmets, yes some of the Oppies now come with a crash hat and from what I've seen with complete beginers in the training, this is an excellent idea. At our club, we encourage all absolute beginners to wear these, but as soon as they are a bit more confident and aware of the boom, they are under no obligation.
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Posted By: moomin
Date Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 11:45am
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Just a word of advice re crash helmets, Crash helmets only protect the top of the head, the face and especially nose can be just as vulnerable. I find kids in crach helmets really struggle with wind awareness and hearing instruction. A good alternative is pipe lagging on the boom, dead cheap and will protect the kid wherever the boom hits them, without reducing wind awareness. That's all
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 12:07pm
Has no one else noticed that wearing a helmet increases the size of the users head by a good inch all over?! This is likely to result in far more hits to the head than not wearing a helmet at all! A good hit to the head is likely to teach you that getting out the way is the best option and it shouldn't happen again 
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 1:52pm
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yes but you will get some parents sueing you because of some stupid kid going home moaning. the joys of modern society. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: laser47
Date Posted: 01 Apr 06 at 12:42pm
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its only done with beginners because they think that to turn the boat at all you need to use loads of rudder so they tend to either gybe a lot (bigger problem in oppi than other classes for some mad unknown reason), spin round in circles or get stuck head to wind. if they didn't do it they'd get people like this kid on a course i did in september who are so scared of the boom comming across and hitting them they lie down on the bottom of the boat and cry
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Posted By: Kiteboy
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 7:53pm
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Another Extreme oppy modification: Do what i did and take the rig out and use a kitesurfing kite! steer with your feet. you can do a good 10+kts! ------------- Laser Radial 185598 (transitional squad...oh yeah) 3 and 7 and 14m kitesurfing kites |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 8:08pm
Does anyone else find Kiteboy's sig ammusing or is it just my slightly suspect sense of humor?
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Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 8:09pm
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ur not alone -------------
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Posted By: Kiteboy
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 8:25pm
its just you... ------------- Laser Radial 185598 (transitional squad...oh yeah) 3 and 7 and 14m kitesurfing kites |
Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 8:29pm
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there are 2 of us -------------
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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 10:13pm
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make that three oooh kiteboy i feel a bully circle surrounding you at an alarming rate ------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 11:41pm
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3 of us
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 11:54pm
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Um.... Tim lad??? 3+1=4 mate... ------------- |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 03 Apr 06 at 11:56pm
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dunno where you went to school Ben. In my day Three + 1 = 3. (don't drink and post) ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 04 Apr 06 at 12:18am
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Surley the helmets on beginners sailors helps? By making their heads bigger, every clunk on the helmet will make them lower their head more each tack. Once they can do it fine with the helmet on, they will be well clear when they dont have the helmet on! (Unless you give them a bigger helmet every day of the course!) ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 04 Apr 06 at 12:47am
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Finish them off by offering them a ride in a Contender BUT DON'T WARN THEM !! MWAAAHAHAHRRIIINGNNNHH! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 04 Apr 06 at 10:01am
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Shes SCARY!! lol Ur Evil BNS
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