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Best way to have Jib sheets

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Topic: Best way to have Jib sheets
Posted By: Olly4088
Subject: Best way to have Jib sheets
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 8:47pm

All I am calling on your vast knowledge for this one.

I currently have the jib sheets on my alb going through some ratchet blocks and straight to the crew, the problem being my crew/girlfriend is only 7 1/2 stone and when it blows she cannot keep the jib in tight enough.  I was thinking of putting some through deck blocks in with some cleats in front of them so she can cleat the jib in as soon as we have tacked. 

has any one got any comments on doing this? And any possible other solutions?



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Phantom 1298



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Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 11:45am
Get rid of the ratchet blocks - unless they are autoratchets they don't run freely enough and make tacking more difficult than it needs to be. If your crew can't hold the jib even with the ratchets, you need cleats. Cleats are good anyway, it's easier to sail the boat upwind if the jibsheet tension is only changing when you want it to!

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No FD? No Comment!


Posted By: Olly4088
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 11:50am
They are on auto ratchets but are still not enough to help her out.  I think having them on through deck blocks with cleats just in front of them is the best way to go that way she can cleat them off as soon as we tack and its all good then

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Phantom 1298


Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 1:50pm
We had standard blocks on the Fireball with cleats on ramps in front of them. We found that by leading them down we could get jib car adjustment too (through judicious use of string and shockcord).

Make sure the cleats are mounted right so it is easy to get the rope in and out though. Nothing worse than struggling to get the rope cleated (and even worse to get it uncleated).


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Paul
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D-Zero GBR 74


Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 3:18pm
Get a self-tacker.... O no, it's one-design, you can't 

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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry


Posted By: Olly4088
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 3:25pm
yeah its almost a real boat

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Phantom 1298


Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 3:26pm
Since when was an Applecore one-design? As far as I remember, rigging and control systems are free. Still not sure a self-tacker would work. Isn't the jib foot a bit long?

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No FD? No Comment!


Posted By: Olly4088
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 10:05pm

No it shouldnt be.  I will try it when I can find some cheap through deck blocks

 



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Phantom 1298


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 9:32am
You definitely want cleats.  Mark the sheets with the optimum position with felt tip pen. Tack, cleat, sit out and draw the sheets into the optimum, then sail by your jib tell-tales, play the main for power.  Its very difficult to sail to windward well with the jib sheet angle changing, cleats keep it constant.


Posted By: Olly4088
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 9:37am

I agree its just a case of finding the cheapest high quality blocks for the job.  Can anyone advise me on what they found was the cheapest place to by stuff.  The cheapest one I have fouind so far was Northampton Sailboats the delivered the next day and tell you what they have in stock with a green light on the web site.



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Phantom 1298


Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 1:28pm
I would definately say cleats but also worth fitting barber haulers or track so you can adjust the sheet angle for the conditions. Also what diameter sheet, larger diameter is easier to grip and hence pull-in but you might need two sets depending on wind speed.

You could also try achieving 2:1 purchase on the jib sheets, although this type of system might result in too much rope in the cockpit.

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Garry

Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: sucker 4 a blow
Date Posted: 12 May 06 at 9:11pm
unfortunatly for you, high spec blocks are very expensive, and the gain, even with ratchet blocks is minimal. In the long run i'd suggest upgrading your girlfriend to a heavier duty model!



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